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301. Topband: Radials in the pond..? (score: 116)
Author: AA8R <AA8R@AOL.COM>
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:33:47 -0400
I'm putting out 60 1/4 wave radials for my 160m Inverted L on the ground. 4-5 of those radials will end up in my pond with anywhere from 5-10 feet to 25 feet in the pond for those 4-5 radials. The po
/archives//html/Topband/2013-08/msg00240.html (6,612 bytes)

302. Re: Topband: Elevated Radials (score: 116)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 17:45:27 -0600
Guy Olinger posted: ...The very same NEC 4.2 with raised quarter wave radials over routine real life ground made of dirt will show field intensities in the ground. (etc etc) _______________ Sorry, bu
/archives//html/Topband/2013-03/msg00036.html (9,347 bytes)

303. Re: Topband: Elevated Radials (score: 116)
Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 04:33:34 -0600
(C) How many elevated radials are "just enough"...? Depends on how many dB you want to throw away. If you can, do 12 to 16. 32 is the kill-the-loss, never-look-back number. ____________ The link belo
/archives//html/Topband/2013-03/msg00007.html (9,382 bytes)

304. Re: Topband: Elevated Radials (score: 116)
Author: "ZR" <zr@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 21:53:48 -0500
Elevated radials avoid a collection of lossy mistakes that one finds in less than optimal buried/on ground radials. If a full size radial system is done properly, dense, uniform all around, you will
/archives//html/Topband/2013-03/msg00006.html (8,293 bytes)

305. Re: Topband: Elevated Radials Questions (score: 116)
Author: Dennis W0JX <w0jx@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 12:06:31 -0800 (PST)
Grant, you should consider putting in an additional 23 radials and put the radial system on or in the ground. This will eliminate any possible detuning by the big metal building and interaction with
/archives//html/Topband/2012-12/msg00352.html (7,413 bytes)

306. Re: Topband: Short radials? (score: 116)
Author: DAVID CUTHBERT <telegrapher9@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 19:32:37 -0600
Real data: I am presently using a 30' base loaded vertical. The ground system consists of 90 radials from 12 to 25 feet. The base referred ground loss is 10 ohms. ____________________________________
/archives//html/Topband/2012-09/msg00304.html (11,752 bytes)

307. Re: Topband: Short radials? (score: 116)
Author: "Shoppa, Tim" <tshoppa@wmata.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 19:22:25 +0000
Thanks for the link! Key phrase for me, which does agree with the table in the ARRL books: "Obviously you're much better off to using thirty two 1/8-wave radials as apposed to a smaller number of lon
/archives//html/Topband/2012-09/msg00285.html (10,060 bytes)

308. Re: Topband: Short radials? (score: 116)
Author: "Shoppa, Tim" <tshoppa@wmata.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:59:26 +0000
In fact I had my ARRL Antenna book (a mid-90's edition) in front of me at the dinner table last night and I think I saw the exact same table. My feeling based on some less than quantitative tests is
/archives//html/Topband/2012-09/msg00281.html (8,383 bytes)

309. Re: Topband: intersecting ground radials (score: 116)
Author: "ZR" <zr@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 08:14:50 -0400
While Im not in a high lightning area we do get some beauties plus Im on top of an exposed hill. The #18 insulated and stranded used on the old Beverages was fine when removed after 20 years and reus
/archives//html/Topband/2012-09/msg00158.html (10,825 bytes)

310. Re: Topband: Radials over a stone wall (score: 116)
Author: "N2TK, Tony" <tony.kaz@verizon.net>
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:49:45 -0400
Tnx again Tom. K7HP modeled this too and is saying exactly what you are saying. As soon as the leaves fall off the trees (which will be soon here in upstate NY)I will clean out the area beyond the st
/archives//html/Topband/2012-09/msg00079.html (9,389 bytes)

311. Re: Topband: Radials over a stone wall (score: 116)
Author: "N2TK, Tony" <tony.kaz@verizon.net>
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 13:09:41 -0400
Tom, Thanks for the info. This is what I was looking for - info from someone who has modeled the radials and/or actual experience with measurements. Going over the wall simplifies things for me both
/archives//html/Topband/2012-09/msg00077.html (9,122 bytes)

312. Re: Topband: Radials over a stone wall (score: 116)
Author: DAVID CUTHBERT <telegrapher9@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 10:19:52 -0600
I can run a NEC simulation tomorrow to see how much radials up and over affect things. _______________________________________________ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
/archives//html/Topband/2012-08/msg00152.html (9,568 bytes)

313. Re: Topband: Radials help (score: 116)
Author: <donovanf@starpower.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:50:19 -0500 (EST)
Not enough room for towers and radials? Antennas aren't big enough? Here's an employment opportunity to work on ELF antennas at the 2 megawatt U.S. Navy NAA transmitter in sunny, warm Cutler, Maine.
/archives//html/Topband/2012-02/msg00112.html (10,350 bytes)

314. Re: Topband: Radials help (score: 116)
Author: "Milt -- N5IA" <n5ia@zia-connection.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:11:19 -0700
HMMMMM!!!!!!!! If that is the case, WHY do the pro broadcasters install all 120 radials at full length; even bare wire buried a couple of inches underground? Inquiring minds want to know where this c
/archives//html/Topband/2012-02/msg00102.html (9,606 bytes)

315. Topband: Radials - a point to ponder (score: 116)
Author: "Michael G. Carper" <mike@wa9pie.net>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:53:57 -0500
When I sent out a recent email about the 160m inverted-L I was finishing with four ¼ wavelength (130?) radials, I got a few responses back indicating that I should cut them in half and double them. S
/archives//html/Topband/2011-11/msg00107.html (7,277 bytes)

316. Re: Topband: Radials help (score: 116)
Author: WA8JXM <wa8jxm@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 07:54:52 -0500
Everything I read says that it doesn't make any difference whether it is insulated or not. One good idea I saw for getting the radials hidden is to use a lawn edger to make a narrow slot. For your dr
/archives//html/Topband/2011-11/msg00054.html (7,797 bytes)

317. Topband: SOLDERING RADIALS - N9LB (score: 116)
Author: "Lloyd Berg" <lloydberg@charter.net>
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 16:43:06 -0500
I live in southern Wisconsin, clay soil, and have been using the modern Oatey brand "No Lead" plumbing solder for all outdoor soldering. I've been using the Oatey plumbing solder ( sold by Home Depot
/archives//html/Topband/2011-08/msg00049.html (7,563 bytes)

318. Re: Topband: soldering radials (score: 116)
Author: "Jorge Diez - CX6VM" <cx6vm.jorge@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:13:00 -0300
Thanks all for the answers... I am working on collection the materials for the project, so all feedback is very important for me, thanks. Just was thinking, is the same or better to have 120 radials
/archives//html/Topband/2011-08/msg00032.html (9,721 bytes)

319. Re: Topband: Asymmetric radials for GP antennas; Just in case others seek what I've just found... (score: 116)
Author: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 10:49:58 -0700
YES. My 160M Tee vertical is about 20 ft from the building that houses my shack, so there are only very short radials in that direction, which happens to be toward JA and VK. I have about 60 much lon
/archives//html/Topband/2011-05/msg00053.html (9,625 bytes)

320. Re: Topband: Asymmetric radials for GP antennas; Just in case others seek what I've just found... (score: 116)
Author: Charles Moizeau <w2sh@msn.com>
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 23:55:51 -0400
A careful reading of Rudy's piece does show that in a situation where you are, and must remain, totally compromised throughout a 180-degree sector, i.e., with zero radials, you can at least pick up f
/archives//html/Topband/2011-05/msg00049.html (10,612 bytes)


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