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Subject: [AMPS] FET Power Amps -Reply
From: dbr@alumni.caltech.edu (David B. Ritchie)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 18:45:44 -0800 (PST)
That's what I meant when I referred to the Ameritrons -- but I hadn't 
heard any feedback on them -- it sounds like you like yours...does it 
work on all bands?  How much does it weigh?  What do you do for DC power 
in?  Is it suitable for dxpeditioning?  When you see 900W peak -- how did 
you measure it?  Any problems with it?

Thanks
Dave N7UE




On Tue, 1 Apr 1997, James E Brown wrote:

> Don't forget the Ameritron ALS-600 FET no-tune solid-state amp, which I
> have used for about 2 years now.  This comes with a power supply.  I
> couldn't be happier with it.  I see around 900W out on peaks at full power
> on 75/160M, and maybe 800W on the other bands.  Key down carrier at
> 700W.  I has performed flawlessly in daily use, including all the major
> RTTY contests.  However, I do reduce the voltage to the finals during
> digital contests to keep the heat down.  This does reduce the power
> output.  I do run it on 240v, which may have something to do with the
> efficiency.
> 
> Jim   W4LC
> 
> >>> David B. Ritchie <dbr@alumni.caltech.edu> 03/28/97 06:45pm >>>
> 
> Icom makes a very nice amp, albeit incredibly expensive and not quite
> 1500W
> Japan Radio makes a nice MOSFET amp at the 1000W level -- also very 
> expensive.
> The big problem with solid state is that you trade volts for amps and 
> volts are, at least for now, easier to deal with and cheaper than amps.  
> You should see the power supply for the 18Kw LARCAN they use at
> KCBS-TV  in Los Angeles -- if you dropped a monkey wrench across its
> terminals,  you'd wind up breathing the monkey wrench.  The power
> supply is huge --  much larger than the HV power supply it replaced. 
> BUT, the MOSFETS  appear to be more reliable -- they fail, but only one or
> two at a time,  and because the entire installation is modularized into 1kw
> plug-in  modules, the techs just solder in new transistors when they feel
> like it  without bringing the transmitter down.  Its very nice, but its not 
> cheap.  Tubes are cheap.  What is the most you could possibly pay for a 
> 1500 W tube?  $1200 - max -- less if you are willing to use surplus, used
>  or pulls (which we are all willing to do or this news group wouldn't 
> exist).  You are not going to find $200 50W Mosfets available cheap,
> used  and surplus (which aren't fried like the one sitting in front of me
> right  now) for some time to come.  And its harder to build -- a lot of stuff 
> all running in parallel on stripline or circuit boards rather than a nice 
> socket and some HV wire and a couple of vacuum caps.
> 
> Oh -- Ameritron has a couple of 500+W class amps for DC -- you have to
>  supply your own power supply -- probably best to just use a car battery
>  and a charger.
> 
> So to conclude -- current technology doesn't permit cheap desktop
> 1.5KW  amps -- you can do it, but the desktop has to be pretty sturdy
> and you  pockets will need to be deep.
> 
> Dave N7UE
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 28 Mar 1997, Lee Buller wrote:
> 
> > I was listen to some guys on 75 meters the other night (Nothing was
> good on
> > TV) and they were talking about FET amplifiers.  They seemed to be
> quite
> > informed about the subject.   >  > My questions is this...where is the
> technology today to have a big old harry
> > 1.5 KW amp with enough headroom that uses solid state devices?
> >  > I know that is broadcasting (AM and FM) a lot of rigs are being
> produced use
> > solid state devices.  I know Harris, BE, Continental, Elcom/Baur and a
> > others are doing this...on FM and AM.  Why hasn't the designs made it
> to ham
> > radio?
> >  > Thanks for the comments....or flames.
> >  > Lee
> > k0wa@southwind.net
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