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From: W8JI@contesting.com (Tom Rauch)
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:18:52 -0400
Hi Peter,
you wrote:
> I guess my objection is to taking a technical term that has a definition
> and then simplifying without (as Ian ended up doing) ensuring that the
> simplification and the situation of its applicability is spelled out. 
> 
> Supposing that for some reason amateurs started using OFDM with M-ary QAM.
> You could well end up on the low bands with the PEP existing for only one
> cycle of RF; this certainly happens at the base band. Thus the definition
> is generally correct, while the application allows latitude. But unless
> one recognises that this latitude is not generally applicable, it easily
> leads to misunderstanding. 


That's right Peter. I fully agree. 

If you are using a wider bandwidth due to amplitude changing rapidly, 
the meter has to be designed to respond to the more rapidly 
changing envelope.  

> Like bit freaks and 'bandwidth'!
 
> For all practical purposes, the assumption for amateurs at the moment is
> valid. And the fundamental power measurement as I think it was you that
> said, is the bomb calorimeter. Can you see the sweep tube linears running
> for long enough to reach thermal stability in the calorimeter??

That's why we calibrate the meter against the calorimeter, and then 
read the meter.

> Interestingly enough, for purposes of Type Approval, the European
> standards allow a maximum measurement uncertainty to 95% confidence level
> of 1,5dB on conducted RF power, which seems a big tolerance. However, the
> measurement inaccuracy build up justifies this - just because the Bird is
> accurate to 5% of FSD, it doesn't mean that the measurement over all is
> that good.

Be careful with that 5%. While you and I and the rest of the world 
think it is true, an expert up in two-land will give you a thrashing for 
saying that. I believe he concludes the reading error is 16%, at 
least in Electric Ladyland.


73, Tom W8JI
w8ji@contesting.com

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