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[AMPS] PA-77 question

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Subject: [AMPS] PA-77 question
From: measures@vcnet.com (measures)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 03:20:08 -0700
>I have been fixing/restoring an Alpha PA-77 for the last few months.  ... ....
>
>.... failure of the 8877 filament.   

Did you measure any leakage between the heater and the cathode in the 
kaput tube?

>........
>I get excessive grid current that I can't adjust around.    Can't take 
>more than 20 watts of drive without exceeding 150 mils on the grid no 
>matter how I load it.   

Typical grid-cath. potential in an 8877 is 55Vrms at full suds.  150mA of 
grid current represents approx. 8.2w of grid dissipation.  

>Otherwise the relationship between drive power, 
>plate current, and output looks normal (all proportionately low).  All 
>testing is into a 1KW Bird Termaline.
>
>Now I'm having a hard time figuring out if there is still something wrong 
>with the amp/PS or if this a bad/weird tube ( I do not have a spare).    I 
>was told that a yu209 was just a "select" 8877 and was a drop in replacement.
>
To find out if something weird is going on with the tube, you need a high 
pot. that will produce c. 8kV.  Roughly 2/3 of the kaput 8877s I have 
tested have gold sputtering damage.  To find it you have it, you either 
need a hack saw or a high pot. tester.  

>One other oddity, during testing I inadvertently applied too much drive 
>which resulted in the grid current meter audibly hitting the stops.   

  Have you compared the full scale reading of the grid current meter 
against a DMM connected in series with it?  Do the current meters have 3a 
back to back protective diodes across the movements?  //  How much drive 
was too much?

>However the grid overcurrent circuit failed to trip.   This circuit had 
>been working before.

I would measure the resistance between the C and the E in the transistor 
that interrupts the grid current when grid current is excessive.   If the 
transistor is C/E shorted, chances are that you had a glitch in grid 
current which caused it to short.  (8877s have enough cathode emission to 
produce over 40a of peak grid current)
>
-  later, Jack .

-  Rich..., 805.386.3734, www.vcnet.com/measures.  


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