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From: sm5ki@algonet.se (sm5ki)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:47:36 +0000
My and everybody elses problem is: why must we very innocent hams suffer
from your personal fights? It is your personal business and what have I to
do with it?

de Hans 
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>Från: measures <measures@vcnet.com>
>Ämne: Re: SV: [AMPS] cabin fever
>Datum: fre 11 feb 2000 05.46
>

>
>>
>??  Warning:  around 10% of this post is about amplifier theory.  The 
>rest is pretty much of a personal nature that explains what has been 
>going on here for the last couple of years.  If you are offended by 
>personal stuff, please stop reading here.  thanks. 
>
>>Hash: SHA1
>>
>?  Hash is an illegal drug, Hans.  
>
>>It's typical of Americans to be obnoxious and self-righteous. 
>
>It's typical of Wikings to over imbibe and raise Hell --  Way better than 
>even Americans.  It is widely known that Americans are about 4.5 db short 
>of Wikings when it comes to imbibing.   . 
>
>>Most of them 
>>are from the younger generation. And, they are cowards. It's easy to insult 
>>someone when someone is hiding behind a keyboard several hundred miles 
>>away. 
>
>Insulting usually indicates that a person is losing.    
>
>>I think I started this flame war but that wasn't my intent. I just 
>>thought that it was humorous that someone with a juno address had "nospam" 
>>in it. Some people saw that as an opportunity to flame someone. I'm sorry 
>>that I brought that subject up, now.
>
>Don't be sorry.  I thought it was delightful.    Congrats.  
>>
>>At 11:33 PM 2/10/00 +0000, you wrote:
>>
>>Gosh Rich. What has  your personal life  to do with technical discussions on
>>a net aimed at amps lovers? 
>
>Not much.  Why read stuff you don't enjoy, Hans?  Do you enjoy kvetching 
>about stuff you just hate to read?
>The personal element was retty much started by *QST* Magazine.  In the 
>Fall of 1994, the League wrote me a letter to see if I would or could 
>write another QST article.  I had another article in my head, so I phoned 
>Paul Pagel and outlined what I had in mind.  Paul said to send him a 
>manuscript.  I did this.  The QST Staff accepted it for publication.  
>"The Nearly Perfect Amplifier" was published in January, 1994.  My guess 
>is that two major QST advertisers got plenty pissed:.  Ameritron/MFJ 
>(Charles Thomas Rauch, Jr.) and Dick Ehrhorn.  On page 72 in the 
>September, 1994 issue, QST published a Technical Topics column that Paul 
>Pagel had nothing to do with.  The Nearly Perfect Amplifier was critiqued 
>by six people.  In this critique, Mr. Rauch managed to put himself on his 
>list of recognized amplifier "experts".  Rauch also made the following 
>statement as to why there was essentially no difference between a 
>copper-wire L-supp and a resistance-wire L-supp.  
>.  "The coil's reactance increases with frequency, and at VHF most of the 
>signal path is through the resistor. "  (Mr. Rauch, p.72 9/94 QST)  In 
>fact, in typical suppressors, at the anode-resonant freq,  there are 
>pretty much equal currents in L-supp and R-supp .   .  
>In the October, 1994 issue, Ameritron/MFJ had over 30 full pages of 
>advertisements in QST.  
>
>>What are your motives  behind all your
>>intellectual quarrels that you love so much?
>>
>My pet peeve is wannabe famous guys who propagate bum dope, old wives' 
>tales, and other feculence.  .  .  .  
>
>>By the way, I would like to know the background of this amps reflector. Who
>>started it? Why? Who takes care of it? 
>
>Bill Fisher is the owner.  In the beginning, he groused a bit about my 
>crocodillian debating procedures..   
>
>> I am a newcomer to this reflector and
>>I understand there is a lot that we babies with our red cheeks and blue eyes
>>ought to know. What is the background behind those aggresive messages? What
>>has happened in the past?
>
>What went  on here started on a Usenet Newsgroup.  It began with an 
>e-mail from a friend who said that Rauch was on the 
>rec.radio.amateur.homebrew NG saying a lot of negative things about me 
>and my simply-awful QST articles. .  I subscribed, read what Rauch had 
>been saying, and a debate ensued.  Fortunately, I received some valuable 
>tips from a ham in New York City named John Ferebee who informed me about 
>Rauch & groupies' Internet debating techniques.  
>The debate was a handfull.  Rauch's groupies were a pretty effective 
>time-sapper.  After only about a month, the denouement suddenly appeared 
>out of nowhere.  ,  Rauch proposed a mathematical problem (involving AC 
>Circuit Analysis) which Disproved his case.  Even though he promptly 
>cancelled this post, Will , K6NDV  had already archived the post, so it 
>was too late to save Rauch's bacon.  .  // Congrats to Will for having 
>the foresight to maintain the archive.  Will's insightful archive proved 
>to be the key to chopping down Rauch's tree.  //    .  I retrieved the 
>post from Will's archive, worked Rauch's proposed problem and posted the 
>misfortunate results.  Rauch stonewalled me a half-dozen times, never 
>even acknowledging that he had posted it.  .It was time to light up a 
>Monica Corona cigar.    Things went downhill rapidly when Wes posted his 
>infamous measurements demonstrating that  resistance-wire suppressors 
>have c. a 41% advantage in VHF-Q.  . .  Shortly thereafter, Rauch changed 
>the name he was using on the NG from Tom to Charles and vanished.   
>Eventually, I received a tip from one of Rauch's one-time friends that he 
>was up to his old tricks on AMPS.  I showed up and war broke out.  True, 
>a lot of guys hated the warring - but is was never boring.  
>
>Who could have guessed that there is an Excellent reason to archive a 
>Usenet debate?.  
>>
>cheers, Hans
>
>-  Rich..., 805.386.3734, www.vcnet.com/measures.  
>
>
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>Från: measures <measures@vcnet.com>
>Kopia: "AMPS" <amps@contesting.com>
>Ämne: Re: SV: [AMPS] cabin fever
>Datum: fre 11 feb 2000 05.46
>

>
>>
>??  Warning:  around 10% of this post is about amplifier theory.  The 
>rest is pretty much of a personal nature that explains what has been 
>going on here for the last couple of years.  If you are offended by 
>personal stuff, please stop reading here.  thanks. 
>
>>Hash: SHA1
>>
>?  Hash is an illegal drug, Hans.  
>
>>It's typical of Americans to be obnoxious and self-righteous. 
>
>It's typical of Wikings to over imbibe and raise Hell --  Way better than 
>even Americans.  It is widely known that Americans are about 4.5 db short 
>of Wikings when it comes to imbibing.   . 
>
>>Most of them 
>>are from the younger generation. And, they are cowards. It's easy to insult 
>>someone when someone is hiding behind a keyboard several hundred miles 
>>away. 
>
>Insulting usually indicates that a person is losing.    
>
>>I think I started this flame war but that wasn't my intent. I just 
>>thought that it was humorous that someone with a juno address had "nospam" 
>>in it. Some people saw that as an opportunity to flame someone. I'm sorry 
>>that I brought that subject up, now.
>
>Don't be sorry.  I thought it was delightful.    Congrats.  
>>
>>At 11:33 PM 2/10/00 +0000, you wrote:
>>
>>Gosh Rich. What has  your personal life  to do with technical discussions on
>>a net aimed at amps lovers? 
>
>Not much.  Why read stuff you don't enjoy, Hans?  Do you enjoy kvetching 
>about stuff you just hate to read?
>The personal element was retty much started by *QST* Magazine.  In the 
>Fall of 1994, the League wrote me a letter to see if I would or could 
>write another QST article.  I had another article in my head, so I phoned 
>Paul Pagel and outlined what I had in mind.  Paul said to send him a 
>manuscript.  I did this.  The QST Staff accepted it for publication.  
>"The Nearly Perfect Amplifier" was published in January, 1994.  My guess 
>is that two major QST advertisers got plenty pissed:.  Ameritron/MFJ 
>(Charles Thomas Rauch, Jr.) and Dick Ehrhorn.  On page 72 in the 
>September, 1994 issue, QST published a Technical Topics column that Paul 
>Pagel had nothing to do with.  The Nearly Perfect Amplifier was critiqued 
>by six people.  In this critique, Mr. Rauch managed to put himself on his 
>list of recognized amplifier "experts".  Rauch also made the following 
>statement as to why there was essentially no difference between a 
>copper-wire L-supp and a resistance-wire L-supp.  
>.  "The coil's reactance increases with frequency, and at VHF most of the 
>signal path is through the resistor. "  (Mr. Rauch, p.72 9/94 QST)  In 
>fact, in typical suppressors, at the anode-resonant freq,  there are 
>pretty much equal currents in L-supp and R-supp .   .  
>In the October, 1994 issue, Ameritron/MFJ had over 30 full pages of 
>advertisements in QST.  
>
>>What are your motives  behind all your
>>intellectual quarrels that you love so much?
>>
>My pet peeve is wannabe famous guys who propagate bum dope, old wives' 
>tales, and other feculence.  .  .  .  
>
>>By the way, I would like to know the background of this amps reflector. Who
>>started it? Why? Who takes care of it? 
>
>Bill Fisher is the owner.  In the beginning, he groused a bit about my 
>crocodillian debating procedures..   
>
>> I am a newcomer to this reflector and
>>I understand there is a lot that we babies with our red cheeks and blue eyes
>>ought to know. What is the background behind those aggresive messages? What
>>has happened in the past?
>
>What went  on here started on a Usenet Newsgroup.  It began with an 
>e-mail from a friend who said that Rauch was on the 
>rec.radio.amateur.homebrew NG saying a lot of negative things about me 
>and my simply-awful QST articles. .  I subscribed, read what Rauch had 
>been saying, and a debate ensued.  Fortunately, I received some valuable 
>tips from a ham in New York City named John Ferebee who informed me about 
>Rauch & groupies' Internet debating techniques.  
>The debate was a handfull.  Rauch's groupies were a pretty effective 
>time-sapper.  After only about a month, the denouement suddenly appeared 
>out of nowhere.  ,  Rauch proposed a mathematical problem (involving AC 
>Circuit Analysis) which Disproved his case.  Even though he promptly 
>cancelled this post, Will , K6NDV  had already archived the post, so it 
>was too late to save Rauch's bacon.  .  // Congrats to Will for having 
>the foresight to maintain the archive.  Will's insightful archive proved 
>to be the key to chopping down Rauch's tree.  //    .  I retrieved the 
>post from Will's archive, worked Rauch's proposed problem and posted the 
>misfortunate results.  Rauch stonewalled me a half-dozen times, never 
>even acknowledging that he had posted it.  .It was time to light up a 
>Monica Corona cigar.    Things went downhill rapidly when Wes posted his 
>infamous measurements demonstrating that  resistance-wire suppressors 
>have c. a 41% advantage in VHF-Q.  . .  Shortly thereafter, Rauch changed 
>the name he was using on the NG from Tom to Charles and vanished.   
>Eventually, I received a tip from one of Rauch's one-time friends that he 
>was up to his old tricks on AMPS.  I showed up and war broke out.  True, 
>a lot of guys hated the warring - but is was never boring.  
>
>Who could have guessed that there is an Excellent reason to archive a 
>Usenet debate?.  
>>
>cheers, Hans
>
>-  Rich..., 805.386.3734, www.vcnet.com/measures.  
>
>
>--
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>Problems:                 owner-amps@contesting.com
>Search:                   http://www.contesting.com/km9p/search.htm
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>

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