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[AMPS] RMS Power

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Subject: [AMPS] RMS Power
From: wc6w@juno.com (Radio WC6W)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 20:50:33 -0700
On Thu, 28 Jun 2001 17:20:27 -0700 "Mike" <W4EF@dellroy.com> writes:
>
>Well, okay if your talking about the average "magnitude" of the voltage,
then you are 
>correct, Vavg = 2/pi *Epk = 0.636*Epk = 0.9*Erms. Now I understand what
Marv was 
>getting at. 
>
>73 de Mike, W4EF...........

Hi Mike,
   Yes!

   The point being that a (continuous) sine wave (or any other
sufficiently continuous waveform) whose average (absolute) value is .9 of
its RMS value will read correctly on a Bird 43 Wattmeter (or meter of
similar design).

73 & Good evening,
  Marv  WC6W

  


>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "2" <2@vc.net>
>To: "Mike" <W4EF@dellroy.com>; "AMPS" <amps@contesting.com>
>Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 11:46 AM
>Subject: Re: [AMPS] RMS Power
>
>
>> 
>> >
>> >Hi Marv,
>> >
>> >The average voltage of a sine wave is 0. That is why the RMS value
>> >is used in power calculations. For a sine wave the RMS voltage is
>> >0.707 times the peak voltage. 
>> >
>> However, polarity counts for naught when calculting watts.   Average 
>V of 
>> a sinewave is c. 0.636 of E-peak.  
>> 
>> cheers, Mike
>> > 
>> >----- Original Message ----- 
>> >From: "Radio WC6W" <wc6w@juno.com>
>> >To: <billydeanward@hotmail.com>; <amps@contesting.com>
>> >Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 7:20 AM
>> >Subject: Re: [AMPS] RMS Power
>> >
>> >
>> >> 
>> >> On Thu, 28 Jun 2001 05:32:16 -0000 "Billy Ward"
>> >> <billydeanward@hotmail.com> writes:
>> >> >
>> >> >[WC6W]
>> >> >The Bird 43 (without a peak reading module) is an average 
>reading
>> >> >meter.
>> >> >
>> >> >[Billy]
>> >> >I thought that the Bird 43 was an RMS meter without the peak 
>reading 
>> >> >module. 
>> >> >  RMS and average are not the same?
>> >> >
>> >> >Billy
>> >> >
>> >> 
>>_________________________________________________________________
>> >> 
>> >> Hi Billy,
>> >>    No, they usually aren't.   
>> >> 
>> >>    For a sine wave, average voltage is equal to .9 * RMS voltage. 
>  The
>> >> factor is different for other waveshapes.  Try figuring the 
>numbers on a
>> >> triangle wave for... fun. :-)
>> >> 
>> >>    The Bird scale is calibrated to read "power" (RMS voltage 
>squared /
>> >> line R) even though it is driven by average voltage... accurate 
>as long
>> >> as it is measuring a sine wave in a 50 ohm resistive system as 
>Maury
>> >> noted.
>> >> 
>> >> 73 & Good morning,
>> >>    Marv  WC6W  
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
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