A debate concerning the decomposition of PVC becomes a political attack
opportunity?
Give me a break! , then get a life.
Regards from Maine, Eric (W1EL)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Bryant" <kc5vdj@yahoo.com>
To: "Phil Clements" <philk5pc@tyler.net>
Cc: "Mike Sawyer" <kc4slk@csrlink.net>; "CosmiCelt" <w4pj@bellsouth.net>;
<amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: [AMPS] Audio Amps supplies in S. FL ?
>
>
>
> Phil Clements wrote:
>
> > PCB = POLYCHLORINATED BIPHENYL= POISON!!!
> > This is the banned stuff. Was used in transformers and filter
capacitors. Bad
> > stuff!
>
>
> Yes, and many of the initial debates began like this.
>
>
> > PVC = POLYVINYL CHLORIDE
> > This is the stuff water pipe and electrical conduit are made from. This
is
> > harmless
> > plastic. Makes a great jacket for coax and rotor cable.
> >
> > I did not want to run out in the morning and rip up all their plumbing!
> > (((73)))
> > Phil, K5PC
>
>
> The day will come. The carcinogenic facts of decomposing PVC are well
known, as well as the estrogen-like factors which cause
> reproductive damage in women. The good news is that the PVC must be
greater than 25-40 years old before it starts seeping the
> yellow [dangerous] stuff.
>
> You can't tell me that what I have seen in about twenty radios doesn't
happen. The information supplied by Mattel, and their
> collectors/dealers is accurate. The caps were made with the same type of
PVC used in Barbie dolls of the 60's and 70's. I have
> seen this goop myself. This is the same goop that is beginning to appear
on all PVC of 1960's to 1970's vintage.
>
> At one time PCBs were thought to be safe. PVC itself is safe for
somewhere between 30 and 40 years, then after that much time, it
> starts decomposition.
>
> People think cellphones are safe, but when the evidence is mounting, and
country after country is discovering that cellphone users
> are at signifigant risk of brain cancer, but there are those here in
America that deny it, despite the numbers. Just like PVC,
> cellphones will require about 30 years [only nine years away] of data to
prove beyond a shadow of a doubt the risks involved.
>
> The yellow goop on PVC between 30 and 40 years old is a hazard. This is a
fact. If you just don't give a damn, feel free to handle
> it any way you want.
>
> I'm not a 60 year old old-timer nearing death. I will take precautions.
>
> The political aspect will be that the facts that are known will be
minimized to only trade rags and such, and kept from the general
> public because of the cost involved with lawsuits and replacement of
existing PVC, much as it is politically expedient due to costs
> to ignore global warming, which is proven beyond a doubt, with more and
more data pouring in from long-term studies every day now.
> Even Reagan had to admit finally that the ozone holes were real, and being
caused by the Chlorine catylist reaction. Remember all
> of the naysayers on that before Reagan finally told the truth [probably
the only thing he ever told the truth on].
>
> Anyhow, wake up, educate yourself, and quit denying reality.
>
> My tip was to wear latex gloves when handling old PVC caps that exhibit
the CHARACTERISTIC yellow goop involved in the decomposition
> of PVC. My tip is known to prevent cancers involving this breakdown
product, as well as reproductive damage in women.
>
> Mattel, not exactly known for being a liberal company, will be happy to
point you to their sources that convinced that
> Republican-owned company [sources SEC and FEC] that the yellow substance
does everything I am saying. If you can't believe a
> company owned by conservatives when it comes to a biological hazard, who
can you believe? Conservatives are always the last to
> admit such dangers.
>
> My advice still stands. Wear latex gloves when handling any PVC
exhibiting the WELL-ESTABLISHED symptoms of decomposition. Not
> taking my advice can result in cancer in both sexes, and reproductive
damage [due to the fact that the yellowish substance acts like
> estrogen when absorbed into the body] in women. Reproductive damage
aspects in men are not established, but suspected.
>
> On a side note. I bet it's 30 years before the industry admits that the
new 2.45 GHz cordless phones are very dangerous. They will
> only do that after millions of brain tumors. I'll give you a common sense
hint right now: stick a wavemeter or frequency counter
> next to your microwave oven, and report to the list the frequency it reads
as.
>
> On the matter of the PVC, and even to a lesser degree, cellphones, I'll
give the industry credit that they had no idea what
> NATURALLY-AGED PVC would do. Laborotory-aged PVC probably didn't exhibit
the breakdown seen in real-life [or did it?]. The
> Cellphone industry is partially culpable. They had at least 20 years of
data from the military on the effects of low-level
> upper-UHF and Microwaves, they knew what they were doing.
>
> Wear the gloves.
>
>
> jim
>
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