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Subject: [Amps] CBer??
From: mark@sandlabs.com (mark)
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 21:08:21 -0500
Well, In contrast with Mr. FuQua, I am quite young... Only 24, you see ...
However I had been able to acumulate 2 MS (Physics and EE) from MIT and one
PhD (BioMaterials) from Pasteur France

... Acording to Mr FuQua, because I did not ask the HAM comunity to teach me
the priciple of a capacitor I am a stupid CBer :)... what can I say ... Bad
apples have many ways to show them selves :)

Keep it up Bill... one of these days you WILL grow up :)
Mark




----- Original Message -----
From: <TimNebo@aol.com>
To: <wlfuqu00@uky.edu>
Cc: <amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Amps] CBer??


> In a message dated 12/4/02 9:57:23 AM Central Standard Time,
wlfuqu00@uky.edu
> writes:
>
> >          I was raised to obey laws.  So when after listing to shortwave
for
> >  a few years I became interested in becoming a radio operator.
> >           Those days you had to have a CB license to operate and to
obtain
> >  one you had to be at least 18 years old. With the
> >  limitations of range and power it was obvious that I should get a ham
> >  license. I first got my novice and then
> >  general about 8 months later. I built my first transmitter (200 watt
CW)
> >  while I was in the 8th grade. I designed it
> >  myself using information from the Radio Amateurs Handbook.  I don't
think
> I
> >  would have been motivated to do so
> >  as a CB operator because of the lack of knowledge of the people that I
> >  would have been working with as compared to
> >  the ham radio community. By being in the ham community I had access to
> lots
> >  of experienced people  when I needed
> >  help.
> >
> >        CB would been quite a distraction and would delayed my
electronics
> >  education considerably. I may not have become
> >  an engineer if I had not become a ham. It was my eagerness to
understand
> >  electronics as a ham that improved my math
> >  skills to the point where I could pursue a carrier in electronics.  I
was
> >  on of those that needed apply math to
> >  understand it well.
> >           Today, such things as internet and CB are just distractions
for
> >  young people. On CB they learn right away to
> >  get amplifiers and make mods to operate illegally and no motivation to
> >  really learn anything except vulgar vocabulary.
> >
> >           I am now am involved in teaching young people radio theory and
> >  construction techniques to advance them beyond
> >  just having a license. And in doing so they are also introduced to RF
> >  applications in science and medicine.
> >  RF technology is not just used communication.
> >
> >  73
> >  Bill wa4lav
>
>
> interesting response bill. thank you very much. but i must say i've taken
> quite the different path as you and i'm still on my long journey to reach
a
> place where most of the men on this list have gone or will go with there
> knowledge and its a terrible thing to hear you belittle me or anybody else
> who seeks knowledge, learning, and understanding just because of the
> background we come from. what if your elmers had taken this approach to
you
> all those many years ago just because you were too young? or because you
were
> too short? or too tall? or for any of these silly reasons? i understand
how
> ham radio used to be and it sounds like a lovely and fond old memory that
i
> wish i could share with you but unfortunately i can't as i'm much too
young.
> my radio beginnings were in 1988 when i was 8 years old. i bought a little
> receiver from a garage sale that was able to cover the 49 meter sw band as
> well as some vhf utilities and such that got me curious on the goings on
of
> radio and it never ended from there. at the age of 12 i saved enough to
buy
> my first cb rig which was very simple and i made my first antenna which
was a
> sad looking 1/4 wave groundplane for which i found a schematic in an old
book
> at my local library. i promise you the satisfaction felt by me as a still
12
> year old kid who just made his very first working antenna was not
diminished
> at all due to the fact that it was trimmed for 27 megs instead of 28 megs.
> the satisfaction was the same and it felt good to talk with something i've
> made. it wasn't long before i found out all about skip as the cycle was
still
> hot back then and it begin to interest me. i did all of the reading i
could,
> listened to the ten meter repeaters on the police scanner, practiced my
code
> with a home built oscillator, and even contacted a local ham radio group
that
> i seen something about in the news paper. it was with this group that i
found
> out the attitude towards me was very negative because of the fact i had
> stumbled upon cb radio first instead of ham radio. these guys basically
made
> a young man who was soaking up knowledge at a fast rate feel like a little
> boy with a walkie talkie who knew nothing. now at the time i thought these
> guys were real super duper first class operators with all of there fancy
rigs
> and big antennas but after a lot of thinking and realizing it seemed to me
> that they were nothing more than a bunch of unfriendly A--holes with a
> superiority complex because they were "licensed operators" and i was not.
> until then i was really ready to join the ranks of ham radio but decided
i'd
> rather not have anything to do with a bunch of men who consider me less
than
> themselves simply because i came from a cb background and they did not
(i'm
> real sure some did but wont admit it). now i assure you i did not let them
> stop me from anything other than getting a piece of paper as i still did
all
> of the learning, experimenting, and fun things that any kid in ham radio
> growing up at the time did except i did them on the illegal 27 megahertz
> freqs and a lot of times with higher than legal limit power. i'm not here
to
> debate the merits of law with anybody. what i do and have done is illegal
> pirate radio no doubt about it but IT IS RADIO and the theories,
principals,
> and drive that motivates us all to do it is the same regardless of
> legalities. bill i wish i grew up in the era of homebrewing and point to
> point wiring like most of you did so i could have the fond memories like
you
> do but most of the advances these days are with software instead of
hardware
> and you have to have a wide range of both to be able to do anything good
for
> the radio hobby in general and that key mostly lies with the young people.
> its my advice you guys start accpeting and elmering anybody who is
interested
> in radio these days regardless of background or you may one day find
yourself
> without a hobby radio service at all.
>
> 73 de Tim Kp82
> www.KpDxGroup.net
>
> "The ability to make (and keep) many friends on the band, is the most
> powerful capability of your radio. This can only be achieved through QSO,
not
> QSL"
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