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Re: [Amps] PS Theory ?

To: "Ian White, G3SEK" <g3sek@ifwtech.co.uk>, "AMPS" <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] PS Theory ?
From: rlm <r@somis.org>
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 05:56:26 -0700
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>rlm wrote:
>>
>>
>>>rlm wrote:
>>>>**  Ian -- Does the PSU Designer program have an entry for Mains
>>>>Resistance?.
>>>>
>>>Well, kind-of. It has a little calculator where you can work out the
>>>effective secondary resistance, which includes the real secondary
>>>resistance plus a contribution from the primary resistance plus the
>>>mains resistance.
>>>
>>***  sounds good but if the transformer core is not Hipersil®, there is
>>an additional loss due to flux coupling.
>>
>That's not something PSU Designer can handle, but it's usually not a 
>major source of error. 

***   Peter W. Dahl told me that in non-Hipersil® transformers, flux loss 
and R loss are about equal.

>If you want to quantify it, you'd have to go 
>beyond PSU Designer's simplified 'plug-and-play' approach. You'd have to 
>make some loss and leakage inductance measurements on the transformer, 
>and step up to a full SPICE model.
>
>>>If you have a figure for mains resistance, you can add it to the primary
>>>resistance.
>>>
>>>>How does one measure this quantity?  Thanks.
>>>
>>>1. Connect an accurate AC ammeter between the mains supply and your
>>>biggest amp,
>>
>>
>>***  Only those amplifiers that use a resonant-choke filter read mains
>>current correctly on a garden-viriety AC ampmeter.
>>
>Sorry, I should have specified an RMS AC ammeter as well as an RMS 
>voltmeter.
>
***  ok
> ...

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