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Re: [Amps] 3.5 kV 2A REGULATED Power Supply: Schematic ?

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Subject: Re: [Amps] 3.5 kV 2A REGULATED Power Supply: Schematic ?
From: "Ian White, G3SEK" <G3SEK@ifwtech.co.uk>
Reply-to: "Ian White, G3SEK" <g3sek@ifwtech.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 09:07:06 +0000
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GGLL wrote:
I've been following this nice discussion, and want to ask something about Ian's post, ¿what's bad with running exciter at a lower level and to have the amplifier "seriously under-driven"? (it seems to be not only a lower power output matter).
My modest guess is something related with operating points due to distortion considerations, is it?.


By "under-driven" I simply mean that you're not utilising the full power output capability of the amplifier.

With a good tetrode amplifier - the right tube, the right power supply and the right operating conditions - you can obtain low distortion right up to the point of grid current, and even beyond that into class AB2 if the grid dissipation allows it.

Rich's line of argument is that you under-drive the amplifier in order to ensure that it can never be driven into grid current. But he is forced into that position because he advocates a high-impedance bias supply that cannot handle grid current without changing voltage.

Darn right I'm being stubborn about rejecting that! Not only will such a bias supply *cause* IMD if there's any trace of grid current, but also it is contrary to tube manufacturers' recommendations. For example, Svetlana's recommendations for the 4CX800A are that "for stability, the source impedance [of the grid bias supply] should not exceed 1K ohms."

Simply design the bias supply to have a low impedance, so that it *can* handle grid current (in either direction) if necessary. If the bias voltage is held constant, there will be no sudden jump in IMD if the tube is ever driven into grid current.

Almost all "class AB1" amplifiers actually do nudge into a small amount of grid current in order to develop an ALC signal. The tube data sheets allow this.


There is still a need to protect the grid against excessive power dissipation due to overdriving. A high-impedance bias supply will protect the grid, but it also creates IMD with any trace of grid current. We should *all* reject that "solution" because it's unethical - you're solving your own problem by dumping IMD onto everyone else.


The proper solutions to grid protection are ALC combined with a low-impedance bias supply... or else turning the drive power way down and under-utilising your amplifier.


-- 73 from Ian G3SEK 'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB) Editor, 'The VHF/UHF DX Book' http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek _______________________________________________ Amps mailing list Amps@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/amps

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