Amps
[Top] [All Lists]

Re: [Amps] Retert: Best Coil Material for 160 Meters Mobile Ant.

To: "Paul Marbourg" <zborg@comcast.net>,"Amp Mailing List" <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Retert: Best Coil Material for 160 Meters Mobile Ant.
From: R.Measures <r@somis.org>
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 11:23:18 -0800
List-post: <mailto:amps@contesting.com>

>Hello Richard.  I am in the midst of doing the same thing here.  I have 
>spent a lot of time trying to find the optimum combination of factors to 
>give the best overall efficiency for the antenna system.  One thing was 
>clear from the get-go: you must do what you can to minimize Rc (coil loss 
>resistance) above all else. 

Yea, Verily

> I initially approached my design with a 
>simple center loaded monopole.  My target frequency was up around 1.992 
>MHz, as I a group I like to hang with is there.  I made a wire frame model 
>of my Chevy Tahoe truck chassis and ran ELNEC analysis over medium ground. 
> With this frequency and the required Xl was around 5000 ohms for an 12 
>foot center-loaded radiator.  Doing the math, this worked out to a coil 
>length of 24" for #10 AWG Teflon insulated wire on a four inch 
>polycarbonate form!!!  An ideal ratio for high Q is a coil diameter to 
>coil length ratio of 2:1.  To even get close to this ratio, the diameter 
>of the coil approached 10".  However, using the uH and # of turns 
>equations, this (10") was a very good diameter (d/l = 1.67).  Also the 
>length of wire required to achieve the desired inductance in the coil 
>drops to a minimum at the best coil diameter.  When using a 12" diameter 
>form, the required wire length began to increase again and the d/l ratio 
>exceeded the optimum 2:1.  However, finding polycarbonate tubing of that 
>diameter at a reasonable price was a real challenge.  Probably the best 
>supplier of plastic I have found is McMaster-Carr Company.  They will sell 
>1 foot lengths of larger diameter polycarbonate tubing.  
>
>Upon further brainstorming, I decided to model various positions of the 
>coil above the lower (1 5/8" diameter copper) mast section.  In order to 
>achieve the best current distribution for the antenna, I tossed out bottom 
>loading and large capacitance hats above the coil approaches.  
>Calculations showed no significant improvement in efficiency by raising 
>the coil above the center position, as the required inductive reactance 
>(Xl) went through the roof, so to speak.  This meant more wire to make a 
>bigger coil with greater Rc loss.  
>
>The best solution I came up with is to run two or more wires off the tip 
>of the 5.5' long upper 1/4" copper-braid covered fiberglass whip section.  
>With two 14 foot wires running to poles on each corner of my Tahoe's front 
>brush guard (with the ends at about 12 feet above ground), the required 
>loading coil reactance dropped down to around 1580 ohms!!  By running an 
>optimization for best coil diameter, I came up with a diameter of 6" and a 
>coil length of right around 4".  The fiberglass upper section is bent 
>forward by the top wires to lower the overall vertical height of the 
>antenna to manageable proportions.  The "vee" spread of the top wires also 
>serves to stabilize the antenna.  This is the best I could come up with 
>for a mobile 160 meter antenna.
>
>Polycarbonate was chosen as the coil form material for it's high impact 
>resistance and uv stabilized property (as well as ease of manufacture).  
>This plastic can absorb up to 0.14% moisture (at atmospheric saturation) 
>and this has a derogatory influence upon the plastic's RF dissipation and 
>dielectric constants, but since I am using Teflon insulated 10 AWG wire 
>for the coil, I think this is a very insignificant tradeoff.  I would like 
>to cover the coil with PTFE heat shrink tubing, (or at least a good 
>polyolefin heat shrink tubing) but this material is not manufactured at 
>diameters greater than about 4.5" expanded, and is VERY expensive.  Once I 
>have the coil resonated to the desired point, I may wrap the solenoid in 
>PTFE tape and then apply a polymer overcoat of some type to be determined.
>
I would try 4" ABS.  It's not expensive and it's D-factor is low.  

>The base impedance of the antenna will be quite low.  ELNEC shows an 
>impedance of around 4 ohms resistive when I include my truck's wire frame 
>model and medium ground with copper inductor losses and an Rc for a Q = 
>300 of about 5.3 ohms & design Freq. = 1.975 MHz.  I may use a remote 
>controlled L-network at the base of the antenna to match up to rig and 
>amplifier.  You could use the old trick of making the antenna have a 
>capacitive reactance at the desired operating frequency so as to have a 
>virtual capacitance for the L-network.
>
>I will include some scans of my ELNEC analysis for you here.
>
>Remember, even the very best mobile 160 Meter antenna will be lucky to 
>achieve a 3% efficiency!!
>
>Good luck with your project.  I hope this has been of some help.
>
Thanks, Paul
_______________________________________________
Amps mailing list
Amps@contesting.com
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/amps

<Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread>