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Re: [Amps] What is it called?

To: "Ian White, G3SEK" <g3sek@ifwtech.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Amps] What is it called?
From: David Kirkby <david.kirkby@onetel.net>
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 09:55:50 +0000
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Ian White, G3SEK wrote:


Tufnol is a machinable grade of plain old-fashioned phenolic (Brit: paxolin).


The big UK electronics distributors like RS Components and Farnell are incredibly expensive for engineering materials - you should see what they charge for that extra "i" in aluminium.

RS is not cheap. You do pay for their excellent service, which is useful professionally, but not necessarily for amateur use. They have data sheets for most products (including these Tufnols) online, although you have to register to get data sheets. If they don't have the data on-line, they FAX it to you. If there is a problem, they sort it out quickly on the phone. I've never had a problem that is not resolved the same day. Yet I have used them for nearly 20 years professionally.


I find I can place an order with RS up to about 4pm and without paying for any extra delivery and can be 99% sure their first class post will get it to me the next day. In London at least, their delivery is very fast.

Farnell do a *guaranteed* next day delivery for zero cost, with no minimum order. I doubt they would do the same for a one-off amateur purchase on a credit card, but professionally I find both RS and Farnell good, and use them a lot.

Recently some storage draws were delivered to work and the courier hit them hard on the floor, bending the sides. I phoned up RS and within two hours there was another one delivered. RS's prices must reflect this.

I've looked at the prices of some hard disks in RS and laugh at them. They are totally OTT, but then when I had a SCSI CD-writer fail that I personally purchased from 'Dabs' it took me weeks to get a returns number. Dabs is cheap, but their service ****.

What price/service you can tolerate professionally is usually very different from what you can tolerate for hobbies, but I would agree with Ian that they might not have been the best source for these materials. It is just one source I know.


PS, for amateur us, Maxim
http://www.maxim-ic.com/
have a very good policy on samples for ICs - shame they don't do engineering materials. You can get several of any of their ICs sent as samples by courier for zero cost.


PPS
I know a colleague, who lists on his web site a hobby of 'Finding things for free'


http://www.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/~mefry/

wanted Texas Instruments DSP chips. He used to buy DSP evaluation kits, remove the DSPs, then throw the rest of the board in the bin. This was cheaper than to buy the DSP chips at commerical prices. This was many years ago, but shows with a bit of ingenuity you can save money. Texas Instruments sell the DSP evaluation kits at a loss I am sure. For any academics, you probably know TI will give them away if you ask nicely.

I use an expensive data acquisition board professionally with an ADC that samples at 200MS/s. Guess what DSP it uses - TI of course. Texas Instruments might make a loss on the evaluation boards, but they reap the benefits when people use these things professionally.









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