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Re: [Amps] Fingerprints on 3Z500 tubes

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Subject: Re: [Amps] Fingerprints on 3Z500 tubes
From: <sccook1@cox.net>
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 12:06:01 -0500
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If the tubes are already in the amp, leave 'em alone.

It's too easy to damage a glass to metal seal.

-SC

> 
> From: Bill Fuqua <wlfuqu00@uky.edu>
> Date: 2005/03/01 Tue AM 09:09:07 EST
> To: Geert Jan de Groot <pe1hzg@xs4all.nl>,  amps@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [Amps] Fingerprints on 3Z500 tubes
> 
>         To answer your question. NO, DON'T Worry about it. This myth really 
> got rolling with the introduction of high pressure Quartz Halogen lamps. 
> These lamps have very very hot filaments with high pressure inside (which 
> increases with temperature) and the hot gas is in contact with the 
> envelope.  They are delicate and if certain contaminates get on the surface 
> the surface of the quartz envelope can be damaged either  by etching 
> (quartz is very difficult to etch) or by causing a hot spot.  Another 
> source of the myth could have been the photography enthusiasts. They always 
> cautioned people about finger prints on lens because they may etch into the 
> optical glass. However, it is likely that the coatings would be damaged 
> first before even the oils even got to the glass.  Go to the kitchen and 
> look at all the glasses that you have put away months or years ago that you 
> have not moved. They should have finger prints on them. Are they etched 
> into the glass? Do they come off in  the dish washer?  If they did etch 
> into the glass you would see all sorts of product advertisements stating 
> that their dishwasher liquid or what ever prevents the problem.
>       Also, if glass were so easy to etch then it would not be used for 
> chemistry test tubes. Etching would contaminate the contents of the the 
> test tube.
> 
>      Saying that, I will say that it is good to keep the envelopes of the 
> tubes clean , but perfection is not necessary, white silk gloves are not 
> necessary. Finger prints will not kill your tubes. Relax.
> 
>        A 3-500Z or even bigger tubes anodes get red hot at times but much 
> lower temperature than the Quartz Halogen lamps filaments. Also, the only 
> thing heating the envelop radiant heat, most of which passes straight thru.
> 
>       I have yet to see a power tube envelop burst due to some contaminate 
> on the surface of the envelope. I guess if someone really worked at it they 
> could damage do it. But the anode would have to get quite a bit hotter than 
> the melting point of glass to damage the glass by radiated heat. The seals 
> would probably go first. They are the weak parts of the envelope. Heat is 
> conducted by the metal to the seals where there may be  a very slight 
> difference expansion rate due to temperature. This can put stress in the 
> areas where glass meets metal and create a crack. This then allows air to 
> enter the tube.  That is why it is important to cool the base (pin seals) 
> and plate caps (anode seals) of the tubes.
> 
> 73
> Bill wa4lav
> 
> 
> At 10:45 PM 2/28/2005 +0100, Geert Jan de Groot wrote:
> 
> >Should I worry about not getting fingerprints on the glass of glass-enclosure
> >tubes like the 3Z500?
> >
> >Should this have happened, what would be the best way to wipe them?
> >
> >Geert Jan
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