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Re: [Amps] 4cx1000a for ssb

To: GGLL <nagato@arnet.com.ar>
Subject: Re: [Amps] 4cx1000a for ssb
From: R.Measures <r@somis.org>
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 06:48:41 -0800
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On Mar 19, 2005, at 6:44 AM, GGLL wrote:

>       Hello Rich, may I ask a question?; you state  below that running  
> less ALC (rig + amplifier system) produces more PEP output, my doubt 
> is, when there's some ALC action, that's because all is running at 
> full PEP capabilities and you begin to overdrive, so why running less 
> ALC would produce more PEP?. I heard also in the past a comment that 
> some ALC would produce a somewhat useful compression effect.
> Many thanks in advance and our best regards for you and your family.

Guillermo -- I am posting this to AMPS because it's something that 
might be of general interest.
-  Amplifiers typically use unregulated anode supplies.  Thus, the more 
average power one drives them with, the more anode-I is drawn, the more 
the anode-V decreases, and the less anode-voltage the tube sees.   Less 
anode-V means less PEP.
-  When I hear someone using way too much ALC, it's a good bet that 
his/her amplifier has a serious deficiency.
- cheerz
>
> Guillermo - LU8EYW.
>
> R.Measures escribió:
>> On Mar 18, 2005, at 6:40 PM, VK3HE Craig wrote:
>>> If you concerned about IMD use the  4cx1500B. At low screen 
>>> potentials it
>>> has a good figure of -43 db below one of 2 tones. Nothing would 
>>> prevent you
>>> using the full screen potential with output power and IMD figures 
>>> being
>>> similar to the  4cx1000A. The radios IMD will always be greater than 
>>> the
>>> tubes IMD, unless you using something like  the FT1K5 in classA. 
>>> These days
>>> ALC design faults are more responsible for bad IMD than the  below 
>>> average
>>> IMD numbers of the radio.
>> Amen, Craig -- ALC design faults can be countered by using the lowest 
>> level of ALC that is detectable.  This, however, is considered an 
>> anathema on the 11m band.  In actual practice, using a  typical 
>> post-xcvr amplifier, running less ALC produces more PEP to the 
>> antenna than is the case with running maximum ALC.
>>> Craig
>>> VK3HE
>>>
>
>

Richard L. Measures, AG6K, 805.386.3734.  www.somis.org

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