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[Amps] Hipersil, the myth and the truth.

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Subject: [Amps] Hipersil, the myth and the truth.
From: "Will Matney" <craxd1@ezwv.com>
Reply-to: craxd1@ezwv.com
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:02:22 -0400
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Hipersil, the myth and the truth.

I was asked about a transformer off this mailer using nothing but a Hipersil 
transformer. I offered an EI type, M6 material transformer of the same specs, 
but it wouldn't do. Well folks, this gave way to me writing this for all on 
what exactly is a Hipersil transformer.

Hipersil is a trademark owned by Westinghouse Electric for a type of 
transformer core and material they manufactured at one time. Hipersil, the 
material, is mearly a cold rolled, grain oriented, silicon steel with about 
3.5% silicon added. That's it, nothing more. M6 material is the same material 
offered by several steel manufacturers, and is what Westinghouse bought in 
large coils. M6 is the AISI number for 3.5% silicon steel which has been cold 
rolled, with the grain oriented in the rolling direction.


What is cold rolled, grain oriented (CRGO)?

This is a type of steel, which after being rolled out to a strip, or sheet, is 
cold rolled again to where the grain of the steel orients itself in a certain 
direction. What this does is drop the reluctance of in steel to the magnetic 
flux, which in turn lowers its losses, nothing more.


Why add silicon?

Silicon is added to control eddy currents in the core and thus lower the 
losses. The thinness of the laminations controls this also. There is different 
grades of silicon steel, with varying amounts of silicon. On the lower end is 
non oriented silicon steel (CRNO) which wasn't cold rolled for the grain to 
line up like M50. On the upper end is M6 which is about the top of the heap for 
CRGO steel without other alloying agents being added such as cobalt ot nickel.


What is a Hipersil core?

Well, there is many "Hipersil" cores if you want to call them that, including 
EI cores, but the steel manufacturers just use the M numbers to designate the 
steel. The proper question is what is a "cut core" or a "C-Core"? A C-core is 
made by winding a thin strip of CRGO or CRNO steel around a rectangular or 
square mandrel in a lathe. The steel strip has an adhesive on it so it will 
bond together after it is rolled to a certain thickness. This strip can be 
several thicknesses where 14 mils is a very common one. The very thin ones like 
2 mils is for higher frequency work in the audio frequency range. 14 mils is 
commonly used in power transformers for 50 and 60 Hz.

After the core has been wound to the proper thickness, it is generally annealed 
to improve its properties, or some are pre-annealed. It is then bonded so it 
cant come apart. Next, the core is transfered to a band saw and cut in half. 
Each half is marked and then the cut faces are either machined or ground for a 
close fit when put back together. this helps eliminate the air gap if any.


Why is a Hipersil core touted to be better than an EI core?

Well, there's a lot of myth and mis-information here. The only difference 
between a cut core and an EI core using the same material is weight. This 
weight savings is due simply to the corners being rounded off where an EI core 
is rectanglar overall, that's it, nothing more. The weight savings you'll get 
is from 15% to 20% just because the corners are rounded off. No matter what, 
each type core has to have the same core area (A) in each type.

A cores power handling ability (in watts or volt amperes) comes from its 
ability to cram all the magnetic lines of force (flux) into a small area (flux 
density). Every core has a maximum flux density (Bmax) which is determined by 
the cross sectional area of the core (A) and the material the core is made 
from, nothing more. If this limit is exceeded, the core goes into saturation. 
This means that any more increase in current does not cause any more flux in 
the core. It also means the the cores permeability drops off sharply at this 
point. A core is designed to not saturate when maximum power is drawn from the 
transformer (this is not the case in an inverter). Generally, a flux density is 
selected which is just below Bmax at design time. Lets say the material gives a 
Bmax of 14,500 gauss. A working flux density of maybe 14,000, or 13,500 might 
be used. However, this increases the weight of the core because more iron has 
to be added to it to keep the flux density down. This is w
 hy when selecting a transformer, you should figure the maximum current in 
amperes to be drawn for each winding including losses. Losses in most filtered 
power supplies run around 5% or so. The reason for this is the designer trys to 
make the transformer as light as possible and this in turn means they design 
the transformer to run as close to saturation as possible without going over. 
On designing power chokes, the DC portion has to be considered along with the 
AC to keep away from saturation. The core can be gapped to correct some of 
this, but that is more than what can be covered here at this time.


What are the disadvantages to a C-Core?

First and foremost is cost. The cost of pre-made cores is expensive unless 
buying a large quantuty of each size. The mounting hardware costs more than 
does on an EI core of the same size. The last, and an important one is that a 
C-core runs hotter than an EI core of the same size. This is due to the mass of 
iron being smaller than on an EI core, plus the fit of the bobbin to the core. 
The only plus to a C-core is labor savings, and a minor weight savings. It 
doesn't take as long to put together a C-core as it does to stack an EI core. 
However, an experienced builder can go pretty darn fast stacking the lams of an 
EI core, even being interleaved. Actually, a tigther fit can be achieved of the 
coil to the core on an EI core than a C-core because of adding the lams, one at 
a time to the exact thickness needed. With a C-core, you get the one thickness, 
that's it. To make it fit, extra paper or wedges is used a lot. This also makes 
one heat up more if the bobbin doesn't have a tig
 ht fit to the core. This raises the cost of the mandrel used to wind the coil 
as it's tolerances are greater.


Is an EI core better than a C-core?

In my opinion, Yes! The reason being is the heat. Heat is the killer of all 
electrical and electronic components. I wouldn't care if the core weighed 20% 
more as long as it lasted longer.


The above is just my opinion on the subject, and hope more have been brought 
into the light on the differences between these two types of transformers.

Best,

Will

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