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Subject: Re: [Amps] Amps Digest, Vol 32, Issue 29
From: "Gene Bigham" <jbigham2@kc.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 20:24:51 -0500
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I had one about that size in a 3-1000Z amp I built back in 1977 or so,
problem with it was in the Philippines the humidity was so high that it
arced over a couple of times.  I sold the amp prior to coming back
stateside.

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>    1. Load cap for 4-1000 (Will Matney)
>    2. SB200 meter? (StephenTetorka@cs.com)
>    3. Re: Relative influence of components to tonal quality(Was:
>       Wrong Business) (Gary Smith)
>    4. Re: Relative influence of components to tonal quality(Was:
>       Wrong Business) (Gary Smith)
>    5. Re: audio black magic                    TSPA (Keith Dutson)
>    6. Re: SB200 meter? (Gary Smith)
>    7. Re: audio black magic                    TSPA (Will Matney)
>    8. Re: audio black magic                    TSPA (Keith Dutson)
>    9. Hickok Tester (Will Matney)
>   10. Re: 4-1000 Cooling (John Irwin)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 15:30:11 -0400
> From: "Will Matney" <craxd1@verizon.net>
> Subject: [Amps] Load cap for 4-1000
> To: amps@contesting.com
> Message-ID: <200508051530110220.01394C94@outgoing.verizon.net>
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>
> I ran across this on ebay and thought about the post for the 4-1000 amp
using an air variable instead of a vacuum variable. This cap was supposed to
have come out of a 4-1000 amp GE made. It don't say what the capacitance is.
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/BIG-variable-loading-capacitor-for-tube-amp-4-1000A_W0QQitemZ5795970024QQcategoryZ48700QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> Best,
>
> Will
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 15:34:35 -0400
> From: StephenTetorka@cs.com
> Subject: [Amps] SB200 meter?
> To: amps@contesting.com
> Message-ID: <07429BE5.19C5FBA2.A5481B25@cs.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Hi all:
>
> Seeking meter for SB200.
>
> Tnx,
> Steve
> WA2TAK
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 12:44:19 -0700
> From: "Gary Smith" <wa6fgi@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [Amps] Relative influence of components to tonal
> quality(Was: Wrong Business)
> To: <gdaught6@stanford.edu>, <amps@contesting.com>
> Cc: amps@contesting.com
> Message-ID: <003701c599f6$12888ab0$a130fea9@datasmit>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Ah..."oxygen free," of course.  We purchased a new tuner/amp sometime ago
and the salesman offered me Monster Cable's O2 free wire.
>
> Told the young man if he could tell me what kind of atmosphere and under
what outward pressure in bars or millibars, (I thought that was a nice
touch) the room this magical wire had been manufactured in, I would by it.
>
> A befuddled look on his face at this query, it was then my wonderful xyl
said to me, "he doesn't know what you're talking about, honey."
>
> Then the salesman looked at me,  a puzzled look on his face and asked:
"does SHE know what you're talking about?"
>
> Told him with as straight of a face as I could muster, "yes, she should
she's the atomic physicist. Her specialty is particle matter."
>
> Needless to say he hurried on with the sale, saying  not one more word
about the properties of copper wire surrounded by a plastic sheathing, while
the xyl gave him  look that said more than words could describe.
>
> 73 (and a chuckle,)
> Gary... wa6fgi
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: gdaught6@stanford.edu
>   To: amps@contesting.com
>   Cc: amps@contesting.com
>   Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 8:52 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Amps] Relative influence of components to tonal
quality(Was: Wrong Business)
>
>
>   On 5 Aug 2005 at 7:35, R.Measures wrote:
>
>   >
>   > On Aug 5, 2005, at 6:46 AM, Karl-Arne Markstr?m wrote:
>
>   < snip >
>
>   > > To say nothing of the pure silver power cords that some specified.
>   >
>   > Gold connectors are apparently required to get the "best sound" out of
>   > silver wire.  I recall an audio magazine job opportunity ad for a
>   > "creative ad-copy writer" by a company that manufactures expensive
>   > audio cables  (Monster Cable, Inc.)
>
>
>   I have occasionally used lengths of Monster Cable between the
>   filament transformer and the tube socket.  It is very flexible for
>   its size, and easy to work with.  It can sometimes be picked up
>   inexpensively at flea markets, garage sales, etc.
>
>   Then I sit back and wait for glowing reports of my audio!!  ;>)
>
>   73,
>
>   George T. Daughters, K6GT
>
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 12:44:19 -0700
> From: "Gary Smith" <wa6fgi@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [Amps] Relative influence of components to tonal
> quality(Was: Wrong Business)
> To: <gdaught6@stanford.edu>, <amps@contesting.com>
> Cc: amps@contesting.com
> Message-ID: <003701c599f6$12888ab0$a130fea9@datasmit>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Ah..."oxygen free," of course.  We purchased a new tuner/amp sometime ago
and the salesman offered me Monster Cable's O2 free wire.
>
> Told the young man if he could tell me what kind of atmosphere and under
what outward pressure in bars or millibars, (I thought that was a nice
touch) the room this magical wire had been manufactured in, I would by it.
>
> A befuddled look on his face at this query, it was then my wonderful xyl
said to me, "he doesn't know what you're talking about, honey."
>
> Then the salesman looked at me,  a puzzled look on his face and asked:
"does SHE know what you're talking about?"
>
> Told him with as straight of a face as I could muster, "yes, she should
she's the atomic physicist. Her specialty is particle matter."
>
> Needless to say he hurried on with the sale, saying  not one more word
about the properties of copper wire surrounded by a plastic sheathing, while
the xyl gave him  look that said more than words could describe.
>
> 73 (and a chuckle,)
> Gary... wa6fgi
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: gdaught6@stanford.edu
>   To: amps@contesting.com
>   Cc: amps@contesting.com
>   Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 8:52 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Amps] Relative influence of components to tonal
quality(Was: Wrong Business)
>
>
>   On 5 Aug 2005 at 7:35, R.Measures wrote:
>
>   >
>   > On Aug 5, 2005, at 6:46 AM, Karl-Arne Markstr?m wrote:
>
>   < snip >
>
>   > > To say nothing of the pure silver power cords that some specified.
>   >
>   > Gold connectors are apparently required to get the "best sound" out of
>   > silver wire.  I recall an audio magazine job opportunity ad for a
>   > "creative ad-copy writer" by a company that manufactures expensive
>   > audio cables  (Monster Cable, Inc.)
>
>
>   I have occasionally used lengths of Monster Cable between the
>   filament transformer and the tube socket.  It is very flexible for
>   its size, and easy to work with.  It can sometimes be picked up
>   inexpensively at flea markets, garage sales, etc.
>
>   Then I sit back and wait for glowing reports of my audio!!  ;>)
>
>   73,
>
>   George T. Daughters, K6GT
>
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 14:48:19 -0500
> From: "Keith Dutson" <kdutson@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [Amps] audio black magic                    TSPA
> To: <amps@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <20050805194649.25FEC3196FE@dayton.akorn.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> >It is not in their interest to tell you what a waste of money
> >the speaker cables are when the companies selling to the audiophool
> >market provide the publishers advertising revenue.
>
>
> That sure does count for QST too, and the other amateur magazines out
there.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> -
>
> QST reviews are different from other magazines.  They have nothing to gain
> by biasing their review one way or the other.
>
> QST purchases all items being reviewed.  They do not purchase as QST, but
as
> an individual (not always the same person).  If work is required to
correct
> a malfunction or defect in the test unit, the individual contacts the
> manufacturer, not QST.  How do I know this?  I bought the Orion tested by
> QST last year - won the sealed bid auction.  When it was delivered to me I
> noticed the call sign of the original purchaser on the original shipping
> tag.  Last month I announced this to TenTec sales manager Scott Robbins
W4PA
> during a TDXS meeting about the new Orion II.  He told me TenTec never
knew
> which unit had been purchased for the QST review until after it was
> published.
>
> 73, Keith NM5G
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 12:50:00 -0700
> From: "Gary Smith" <wa6fgi@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [Amps] SB200 meter?
> To: <StephenTetorka@cs.com>, <amps@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <004d01c599f6$de109380$a130fea9@datasmit>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Try   www.harbachelectronics.com  He has lots of stuff for'em.
> 73,
> Gary... wa6fgi
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: StephenTetorka@cs.com
>   To: amps@contesting.com
>   Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 12:34 PM
>   Subject: [Amps] SB200 meter?
>
>
>   Hi all:
>
>   Seeking meter for SB200.
>
>   Tnx,
>   Steve
>   WA2TAK
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 15:53:08 -0400
> From: "Will Matney" <craxd1@verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Amps] audio black magic                    TSPA
> To: amps@contesting.com
> Message-ID: <200508051553080800.014E526E@outgoing.verizon.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> They get advertising dollars don't they?
>
> All I can say is I know 1-2 on this very mailer that has some stories
about them.
>
> Best,
>
> Will
>
> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
>
> On 8/5/05 at 2:48 PM Keith Dutson wrote:
>
> >>It is not in their interest to tell you what a waste of money
> >>the speaker cables are when the companies selling to the audiophool
> >>market provide the publishers advertising revenue.
> >
> >
> >That sure does count for QST too, and the other amateur magazines out
> >there.
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> >-
> >
> >QST reviews are different from other magazines.  They have nothing to
gain
> >by biasing their review one way or the other.
> >
> >QST purchases all items being reviewed.  They do not purchase as QST, but
> >as
> >an individual (not always the same person).  If work is required to
correct
> >a malfunction or defect in the test unit, the individual contacts the
> >manufacturer, not QST.  How do I know this?  I bought the Orion tested by
> >QST last year - won the sealed bid auction.  When it was delivered to me
I
> >noticed the call sign of the original purchaser on the original shipping
> >tag.  Last month I announced this to TenTec sales manager Scott Robbins
> >W4PA
> >during a TDXS meeting about the new Orion II.  He told me TenTec never
knew
> >which unit had been purchased for the QST review until after it was
> >published.
> >
> >73, Keith NM5G
> >
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>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 15:25:20 -0500
> From: "Keith Dutson" <kdutson@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [Amps] audio black magic                    TSPA
> To: <amps@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <20050805202345.518763191CB@dayton.akorn.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> You must not read QST reviews very often, or you would see they are
> different.
>
> 73, Keith NM5G
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amps-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com] On
> Behalf Of Will Matney
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 2:53 PM
> To: amps@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [Amps] audio black magic TSPA
>
> They get advertising dollars don't they?
>
> All I can say is I know 1-2 on this very mailer that has some stories
about
> them.
>
> Best,
>
> Will
>
> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
>
> On 8/5/05 at 2:48 PM Keith Dutson wrote:
>
> >>It is not in their interest to tell you what a waste of money the
> >>speaker cables are when the companies selling to the audiophool market
> >>provide the publishers advertising revenue.
> >
> >
> >That sure does count for QST too, and the other amateur magazines out
> >there.
> >-----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >-----
> >-
> >
> >QST reviews are different from other magazines.  They have nothing to
> >gain by biasing their review one way or the other.
> >
> >QST purchases all items being reviewed.  They do not purchase as QST,
> >but as an individual (not always the same person).  If work is required
> >to correct a malfunction or defect in the test unit, the individual
> >contacts the manufacturer, not QST.  How do I know this?  I bought the
> >Orion tested by QST last year - won the sealed bid auction.  When it
> >was delivered to me I noticed the call sign of the original purchaser
> >on the original shipping tag.  Last month I announced this to TenTec
> >sales manager Scott Robbins W4PA during a TDXS meeting about the new
> >Orion II.  He told me TenTec never knew which unit had been purchased
> >for the QST review until after it was published.
> >
> >73, Keith NM5G
> >
> >_______________________________________________
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 16:51:35 -0400
> From: "Will Matney" <craxd1@verizon.net>
> Subject: [Amps] Hickok Tester
> To: amps@contesting.com
> Message-ID: <200508051651350300.0183D5CE@outgoing.verizon.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> All,
>
> Hickok made a transistor tester which had three meters on it, one each for
base, emitter, and collector. Does anyone know what the model number was, an
850 maybe? The 870 has a single meter.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Will
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 14:24:23 -0700 (PDT)
> From: John Irwin <crazytvjohn@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Amps] 4-1000 Cooling
> To: Mark Beckwith <n5ot@n5ot.com>
> Cc: amps@contesting.com
> Message-ID: <20050805212423.17631.qmail@web80404.mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> There is a used on on ebay right now
>
> plus one for a 3-1000z>>>>forget pickle jars when the right equipment is
available
>
> john kb9tc
>
>
> Mark Beckwith <n5ot@n5ot.com> wrote:> Anybody got any other alternatives
for 4-1000
> > chimneys besides 1 gallon pickle jars ?
>
> I just bought a homebrew deck that used a modern day coffee decanter pot
> (i.e. "Mr. Coffee" et al) with the bottom cut out of it, plus some
aluminum
> sheet for the chimney. I'll try and take a photo of it. Pretty whacky.
>
> Then today on eBay I saw what's described as a "broadcast pull" but take a
> look at the tube - the cooling holes in the metal base have been modified.
> Is this a common mod? Obviously someone thought they'd get more air
through
> the tube perhaps.
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5795994946&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1
>
> ?
>
> Mark, N5OT
>
>
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