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[Amps] Observations on a Pi-L tank

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Subject: [Amps] Observations on a Pi-L tank
From: Scott Townley <nx7u@cox.net>
Reply-to: nx7u@arrl.net
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 15:15:04 -0500
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A rambling set of observations on Pi-L tank design and realization:
Proposed amp is for 17m/12m, single 3-500Z, 650W output.  It fills the gaps...
First come up with design values for the Pi-L from TAP.  Then I built a 
spreadsheet to design the coils using the Nagaoka formulation rather than the 
Wheeler approximation (in every ARRL handbook since Wheeler published it, no 
doubt).  
In playing with the proposed inductor diameter I started wondering what the 
lower limit was.  With a loaded Q of around 12 then I would need the unloaded 
Qo to be ~200 to keep the tank losses below 0.5dB (70W).  I could accomplish 
that with 1/4" tubing or with some existing 2" B&W coilstock, but it?s only 
14AWG.  Both will easily give me Qo>200.  So what?s the difference?  I?d rather 
use the coilstock (less work for me).
Some number-crunching gave inductor losses of 34W and 5.6W (L1 and L2, 
respectively) for a Qo of 300 (perhaps optimistic).  To get an idea of the 
temperature rise, I went through a simple DC analogy for the 12m coil:
Total wire in 12m coil (L1)=71" (of 1/4" tubing)
DC resistance of the equivalent wire (2AWG)=973micro-ohms
If it dissipates 34W, then the analogous DC current is sqrt(Pdiss/DCR)=190A!!
A quick look at a wire manufacturers chart (Alpha and Belden both have nice 
hookup wire charts) implies the wire temperature reaching 100degC.  This 
inference made from the published current limit for a 2AWG wire with a rated 
100C insulation being 190A or thereabouts.  Might be more since tubing has less 
thermal mass than solid wire.
A similar run for L2, but using 18AWG for the much smaller inductor required 
gave an equivalent DC current of 21A and a temperature of 125C.
This should be the worst case temperature rise, since at lower frequencies, 
even though Q decreases approximately as the sqrt(f), the total wire required 
for the same Xl is roughly ~1/f so equivalent currents will decrease roughly 
1/sqrt(f).
Tank inductors get hot!  I can see why Rich mentions forced-air cooling of tank 
components from time to time.  40W doesn?t sound like much (we don?t force-air 
cool our house lights, right?).  I?m guessing that the ultimate limit is 
probably around 180C (solder melting point)?any comments?  Probably less than 
that given that metal resistance has a positive temperature coefficient.
I always thought the decreasing inductor wire size with decreasing frequency 
(e.g., on a B&W850 and many others) was more for compactness when realizing the 
higher inductances involved?is it as much as thermal consideration?
Comments?  Flames?  Further observations?  (already hot enough here as it is?)


Scott Townley NX7U
Gilbert, AZ  DM43di

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