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Re: [Amps] grounding grids

To: "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>, <amps@contesting.com>,"ham_amplifiers" <ham_amplifiers@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] grounding grids
From: "RICHARD GEORGE" <k6kwq@msn.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 08:23:26 -0700
List-post: <mailto:amps@contesting.com>
What would we do with out Tom! Now he is smarter then the much published Bill 
Orr.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tom Rauch<mailto:w8ji@contesting.com> 
  To: amps@contesting.com<mailto:amps@contesting.com> 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 8:12 AM
  Subject: Re: [Amps] grounding grids



  > The subject has come up in the other thread about good 
  > amplifier design,
  > attention to what is "right" and "wrong" etc.  I would 
  > like to know
  > HOW....if....grounding grids through caps like Heath 
  > SB-220 and Drake L4B and  the Collins
  > amps and others was a poor design, why did so many pick up 
  > on the  idea and
  > do it?

  I've explained that dozens of times.

  Bill Orr copied that idea from Collins. He totally 
  misunderstood and misapplied a great idea Collins had for 
  the AB1 tetrode with grounded screen in the 30S1, and 
  wrongly applied it to AB2 (grid current) amplifiers that 
  used triodes.

  Bill used to hound the hell out of people trying to get them 
  to use his pet idea for "super cathode driven". He called 
  Ameritron and insisted we use it, he called Heath and did 
  the same. The only way I stopped it from being used was I 
  actually measured it in a few amplifiers and took data, and 
  the hard data showed it destabilized the amplifiers, made 
  them more sensitive to loading, reduced the gain flatness, 
  and generally increased IM.

  > How could something that is NOT considered "good" gain so 
  > much
  > popularity?

  Because of pressure. The same pressure is being applied with 
  nichrome. A forceful or popular fellow gets an idea, right 
  or wrong, and he hounds and torments people until they 
  yield. A good example of this is the folded monopole antenna 
  in Orr's handbook. It is VERY easy to demonstrate the idea a 
  folded element reduces ground loss is without merit. Both 
  W7EL and myself independently (years apart) demonstrated 
  that to Orr, and Orr agreed. But the idea never came back 
  out of the West Coast Handbook. The same is true for the 
  "super cathode" nonsense.

  An even larger problem is once something gets in print, even 
  if totally wrong and removed later, it takes on a life of 
  its own. An example of that is the silly "shielded ground 
  lead" idea, or the idea that moving a 1:1 balun from the 
  output of a single ended floating network tuner somehow 
  improves balance.

  There are a lot of easily proven wrong ideas that live on 
  and on because they either make it into publication or are 
  driven by a person with a particular agenda. Sometimes 
  manufacturers, even though they know better, just go along 
  because the market views an incorrect idea as good.

  That's the way life is.

  73 Tom 


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