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Re: [Amps] 2-4CX1000A amp

To: Allan Greening <vk3pa@vk3pa.com>, amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] 2-4CX1000A amp
From: Radio WC6W <wc6w_amps@yahoo.com>
Reply-to: wc6w_amps@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:01:31 -0800 (PST)
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Hi Allan,
   Here are some old runs from my Pi-L Basic program at 1000 ohms plate 
impedance which should be just about right for a pair of those tubes.

   This program shows all the extremes at the band edges and output loads so 
that components may be juduciously selected.

   Note that the lower Q chosen for the second two runs maintains the plate C 
under 500pF on 160.

   If you want to run some of your own numbers, a listing of the program is on 
my webpage at:

http://wc6w.50webs.com/wc6wamps/index.html?fr61.html

73 & G'day!
   Marv WC6W

http://wc6w.50webs.com/

************************** Q of 12 or so ***************************

               1000 ohm to 52 ohm PI-L Network

FREQ     Pi-Q      C1 pF     L1 uH     C2 pF     L2 uH     Mid Z

 1.8      12.7      773       14.46     2367      8.07      212 
 2        12        641       14.46     1874      8.07      250 
 3.5      12.9      406       7.23      1260      4.03      203 
 4        12        320       7.23      937       4.03      250 
 5.4      12        237       5.35      694       2.99      250 
 7.15     12        179       4.04      524       2.25      250 
 10       12        128       2.89      374       1.61      250 
 14.15    12        90        2.04      264       1.14      250 
 18.15    13        79        1.36      249       .76       197 
 21.2     12        60        1.36      176       .76       250 
 24.85    13.2      59        .97       187       .54       190 
 28       12.4      47        .97       143       .54       227 
 29.7     12        43        .97       126       .54       250 
 50       12.5      27        .53       82        .29       221 
 54       12        23        .53       69        .29       250 


               1000 ohm to 25 ohm PI-L Network

FREQ     Pi-Q      C1 pF     L1 uH     C2 pF     L2 uH     Mid Z

 1.8      15.3      851       14.46     2309      8.07      358 
 2        14.9      715       14.46     1813      8.07      436 
 3.5      15.5      446       7.23      1231      4.03      340 
 4        14.9      357       7.23      906       4.03      436 
 5.4      14.9      265       5.35      671       2.99      436 
 7.15     14.9      200       4.04      507       2.25      436 
 10       14.9      143       2.89      362       1.61      436 
 14.15    14.9      101       2.04      256       1.14      436 
 18.15    15.6      87        1.36      244       .76       326 
 21.2     14.9      67        1.36      171       .76       436 
 24.85    15.7      64        .97       183       .54       313 
 28       15.1      53        .97       139       .54       391 
 29.7     14.9      48        .97       122       .54       436 
 50       15.2      30        .53       80        .29       378 
 54       14.9      26        .53       67        .29       436 


               1000 ohm to 100 ohm PI-L Network

FREQ     Pi-Q      C1 pF     L1 uH     C2 pF     L2 uH     Mid Z

 1.8      12.1      754       14.46     2146      8.07      183 
 2        11.2      618       14.46     1724      8.07      202 
 3.5      12.3      397       7.23      1137      4.03      178 
 4        11.2      309       7.23      862       4.03      202 
 5.4      11.2      228       5.35      638       2.99      202 
 7.15     11.2      172       4.04      482       2.25      202 
 10       11.2      123       2.89      344       1.61      202 
 14.15    11.2      87        2.04      243       1.14      202 
 18.15    12.5      78        1.36      224       .76       175 
 21.2     11.2      58        1.36      162       .76       202 
 24.85    12.8      58        .97       168       .54       172 
 28       11.7      46        .97       131       .54       191 
 29.7     11.2      41        .97       116       .54       202 
 50       11.8      26        .53       74        .29       188 
 54       11.2      22        .53       63        .29       202 


******* Lower Q on the low bands, Higher on the high ones ********

               1000 ohm to 52 ohm PI-L Network

FREQ     Pi-Q      C1 pF     L1 uH     C2 pF     L2 uH     Mid Z

 1.8      7.4       460       23.4      1658      8.07      212 
 2        7         379       23.4      1329      8.07      250 
 3.5      8.6       274       10.44     956       4.03      203 
 4        8         215       10.44     719       4.03      250 
 5.4      12        237       5.35      694       2.99      250 
 7.15     12        179       4.04      524       2.25      250 
 10       12        128       2.89      374       1.61      250 
 14.15    12        90        2.04      264       1.14      250 
 18.15    13        79        1.36      249       .76       197 
 21.2     12        60        1.36      176       .76       250 
 24.85    13.2      59        .97       187       .54       190 
 28       15.4      59        .78       169       .54       227 
 29.7     15        53        .78       147       .54       250 
 50       17.7      38        .38       106       .29       221 
 54       17        33        .38       89        .29       250 


               1000 ohm to 25 ohm PI-L Network

FREQ     Pi-Q      C1 pF     L1 uH     C2 pF     L2 uH     Mid Z

 1.8      9.2       513       23.4      1735      8.07      358 
 2        8.9       430       23.4      1376      8.07      436 
 3.5      10.5      303       10.44     984       4.03      340 
 4        10.1      243       10.44     731       4.03      436 
 5.4      14.9      265       5.35      671       2.99      436 
 7.15     14.9      200       4.04      507       2.25      436 
 10       14.9      143       2.89      362       1.61      436 
 14.15    14.9      101       2.04      256       1.14      436 
 18.15    15.6      87        1.36      244       .76       326 
 21.2     14.9      67        1.36      171       .76       436 
 24.85    15.7      64        .97       183       .54       313 
 28       18.8      66        .78       160       .54       391 
 29.7     18.5      59        .78       139       .54       436 
 50       21.4      42        .38       100       .29       378 
 54       21        37        .38       83        .29       436 


               1000 ohm to 100 ohm PI-L Network

FREQ     Pi-Q      C1 pF     L1 uH     C2 pF     L2 uH     Mid Z

 1.8      7         446       23.4      1387      8.07      183 
 2        6.4       362       23.4      1123      8.07      202 
 3.5      8.2       268       10.44     816       4.03      178 
 4        7.4       206       10.44     623       4.03      202 
 5.4      11.2      228       5.35      638       2.99      202 
 7.15     11.2      172       4.04      482       2.25      202 
 10       11.2      123       2.89      344       1.61      202 
 14.15    11.2      87        2.04      243       1.14      202 
 18.15    12.5      78        1.36      224       .76       175 
 21.2     11.2      58        1.36      162       .76       202 
 24.85    12.8      58        .97       168       .54       172 
 28       14.6      58        .78       158       .54       191 
 29.7     14        51        .78       139       .54       202 
 50       16.8      37        .38       100       .29       188 
 54       15.8      32        .38       85        .29       202 


*********** Low Q all the way *********************


                    1000 ohm to 52 ohm PI-L Network

FREQ     Pi-Q      C1 pF     LP uH     C2 pF     LL uH     Mid Z

 1.8      7.4       460       23.4      1658      8.07      212 
 2        7         379       23.4      1329      8.07      250 
 3.5      7.6       242       11.7      879       4.03      203 
 4        7         189       11.7      664       4.03      250 
 5.4      8         159       7.74      533       2.99      250 
 7.15     8         120       5.84      402       2.25      250 
 10       8         86        4.17      287       1.61      250 
 14.15    8         61        2.95      203       1.14      250 
 18.15    8.7       53        1.97      189       .76       197 
 21.2     8         40        1.97      135       .76       250 
 24.85    8.9       40        1.4       141       .54       190 
 28       8.3       32        1.4       109       .54       227 
 29.7     8         29        1.4       96        .54       250 
 50       10.4      22        .63       72        .29       221 
 54       10        19        .63       61        .29       250 


                    1000 ohm to 25 ohm PI-L Network

FREQ     Pi-Q      C1 pF     LP uH     C2 pF     LL uH     Mid Z

 1.8      9.2       513       23.4      1735      8.07      358 
 2        8.9       430       23.4      1376      8.07      436 
 3.5      9.3       269       11.7      923       4.03      340 
 4        8.9       215       11.7      688       4.03      436 
 5.4      10.1      180       7.74      541       2.99      436 
 7.15     10.1      136       5.84      409       2.25      436 
 10       10.1      97        4.17      292       1.61      436 
 14.15    10.1      68        2.95      206       1.14      436 
 18.15    10.6      59        1.97      194       .76       326 
 21.2     10.1      45        1.97      138       .76       436 
 24.85    10.7      44        1.4       146       .54       313 
 28       10.3      36        1.4       112       .54       391 
 29.7     10.1      32        1.4       98        .54       436 
 50       12.8      25        .63       72        .29       378 
 54       12.5      22        .63       60        .29       436 


                    1000 ohm to 100 ohm PI-L Network

FREQ     Pi-Q      C1 pF     LP uH     C2 pF     LL uH     Mid Z

 1.8      7         446       23.4      1387      8.07      183 
 2        6.4       362       23.4      1123      8.07      202 
 3.5      7.2       236       11.7      734       4.03      178 
 4        6.4       181       11.7      561       4.03      202 
 5.4      7.4       153       7.74      461       2.99      202 
 7.15     7.4       115       5.84      348       2.25      202 
 10       7.4       82        4.17      249       1.61      202 
 14.15    7.4       58        2.95      176       1.14      202 
 18.15    8.4       52        1.97      160       .76       175 
 21.2     7.4       39        1.97      117       .76       202 
 24.85    8.5       39        1.4       120       .54       172 
 28       7.7       31        1.4       94        .54       191 
 29.7     7.4       27        1.4       83        .54       202 
 50       9.8       22        .63       64        .29       188 
 54       9.3       19        .63       55        .29       202 




--- On Tue, 12/16/08, Allan Greening <vk3pa@vk3pa.com> wrote:

> From: Allan Greening <vk3pa@vk3pa.com>
> Subject: [Amps] 2-4CX100A amp
> To: amps@contesting.com
> Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 1:44 PM
> Hi all, can someone give me the output (TANK) values for
> both Pi es Pi L
> for the tune /load cap's es coil inductance for 160m..
> iam using 2 off
> 4CX1000A @ 3Kv, Sc @ 325v in AB1 .. TU es best for
> Xmas/HNY.. 73 vk3pa
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