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Re: [Amps] SB-200 6 meter conversion

To: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>, <n1miw@cox.net>, "bill price" <kingofbackswing@hotmail.com>, <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] SB-200 6 meter conversion
From: "Steve Katz" <stevek@jmr.com>
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 11:15:09 -0700
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I suspect so also.  I don't think a pair of tubes would last long at 300mA Ig!
 
 

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From: Carl [mailto:km1h@jeremy.mv.com]
Sent: Sun 8/9/2009 10:55 AM
To: Steve Katz; n1miw@cox.net; bill price; amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] SB-200 6 meter conversion


Since the grid position is only 200ma FS and 100ma is considered max I suspect 
it is a classic case of not bothering to read the manual.
 
Carl
KM1H
 
 

        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Steve Katz <mailto:stevek@jmr.com>  
        To: n1miw@cox.net ; Carl <mailto:km1h@jeremy.mv.com>  ; bill price 
<mailto:kingofbackswing@hotmail.com>  ; amps@contesting.com 
        Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 12:59 PM
        Subject: RE: [Amps] SB-200 6 meter conversion

        300mA for a pair of 572Bs is a lot of grid current...I suspect the 
output doesn't look very clean, especially if you can do an IMD check (which 
requires a lot of stuff most don't have, but maybe you know somebody).
         
        WB2WIK/6

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        From: amps-bounces@contesting.com on behalf of Larry
        Sent: Sun 8/9/2009 9:02 AM
        To: 'Carl'; 'bill price'; amps@contesting.com
        Subject: Re: [Amps] SB-200 6 meter conversion
        
        


           I have had no issues with tuning my 572B tubes during testing, even 
with
        having the plates glowing bright red. Even though the tubes are not 
rated
        for 50MHz, how many other tubes are run outside their specs (HV,etc.) 
and
        work fine?
        
           I would like to convert an SB-220 or 221 - if someone has a junker 
with a
        good transformer but soft tubes they're willing to give me, I'll take 
it.
        Other than that, I'll stick with the 200 because that's what I could 
afford.
        I can't justify to the wife spending $800.00 on a good  amplifier that 
will
        be converted to a monobander and used only a couple of months 
throughout the
        year. $500.00 on a faulty one is pricey too...
        
           I still may convert to the GI-7b, but this was a cheap experiment 
(zero
        dollars spent on the conversion) that seems to be going quite well, 
despite
        what all of the skeptics say. It's all part of my learning curve with
        amplifiers. If it blows up, so be it. I like fireworks! 73's, Larry 
N1MIW
        
        -----Original Message-----
        From: Carl [mailto:km1h@jeremy.mv.com]
        Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 9:50 AM
        To: bill price; n1miw@cox.net; amps@contesting.com
        Subject: Re: [Amps] SB-200 6 meter conversion
        
        
        The 572B works just fine on 6M at full ratings. This is been discussed 
many
        times on here and should no longer be an issue.
        
        Carl
        KM1H
        
        
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: "bill price" <kingofbackswing@hotmail.com>
        To: <n1miw@cox.net>; <amps@contesting.com>
        Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 9:21 AM
        Subject: Re: [Amps] SB-200 6 meter conversion
        
        
        
        the 572b tube is not rated to operate on 6 meters, the sb220 would be a
        better choice.
         i have a sb200 with a gi7b tube that some one started to mod and gave 
up,
        this fall i will finish it. bill nj2s
        
        
        > From: n1miw@cox.net
        > To: Amps@contesting.com
        > Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 22:34:18 -0400
        > Subject: [Amps] SB-200 6 meter conversion
        >
        > I just wanted to report that I have been almost successful at 
converting
        > my SB-200 with 572B's to 6 meters. I originally wanted to replace the 
tube
        > with a GI-7B (and still may do so), but decided that I should give it 
the
        > effort to at least try the 572's to "see what happens". I removed 
several
        > plates from the tune cap and at the moment, I have a jumper on the 
output
        > coil at the 1 turn mark - this coil looks like it "might" be 
original, but
        > not sure since this amp was previously modified for ...ahem... 11 
meters.
        > With 30 watts in, I'm seeing ~500 watts out on the bird. Not sure 
about
        > the
        > accuracy though because the slug I'm using is for 2-30MHz. I plan on
        > connecting up the amp to the digital wattmeter tomorrow to see how 
close I
        > actually am to the 500 watt mark - it's getting late. I'm also hoping 
the
        > signal is clean - I don't have an analyzer. Guess some on-the-air 
testing
        > is
        > needed during off-season.
        >
        > One quick question for you guys who are running modified 6 meter amps 
-
        > does the amplifier draw more line current after the mod? I seem to 
have
        > allot of output for little input, and when I approach 70 watts in, I 
run
        > the
        > risk of tripping the breaker in the house. I'm happy with the 500 
watts
        > (if
        > accurate), but wanted to hear someone else's experience.
        >
        > Oh, by the way - I didn't touch the suppressors on the anodes. They're
        > still 3 turns around a 47 Ohm Carbon Comp resistor. I have ~300ma grid
        > current with ~500ma plate current at 500 watts output.
        >
        > 73's... Larry N1MIW
        >
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