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Re: [Amps] New NXP BLF578XR 1200W LDMOS FET is "indestructible"

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Subject: Re: [Amps] New NXP BLF578XR 1200W LDMOS FET is "indestructible"
From: "Roger (sub1)" <sub1@rogerhalstead.com>
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 13:53:50 -0400
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On 8/13/2011 8:53 AM, Ron Youvan wrote:
> Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
>
<snip>
>> I don't know how close we are to the theoretical limits of what is possible, 
>> but
>> perhaps not too far.
>     I've never heard of this, but I see no theoretical limit problem, we can 
> tolerate any output
> impedance if we are allowed to use a transformer/s.
There are physical limitations, but I'm embarrassed to say that although 
I used to teach semiconductor circuit design It's been so long that I do 
not remember any formulas. The limitation being talked about sounds like 
it applies to bipolar transistors rather than today's and would apply to 
a "given" transistor where the gain is inversely proportional to 
frequency and dissipation goes up dramatically near the upper end of the 
operating range.

Like tubes frequency limitations are due to transit times, however the 
transistor has junction temperature, gate temp, gate to source and drain 
capacity in addition to temp limitations.

Like David I see no reason for a theoretical limit.  The main limitation 
in today's RF Power transistors is getting rid of the heat fast enough.  
They've made great strides, but the thermal mass of the internal 
components is so small that even with the best of heat sinking 
techniques the internal delta T can easily become the power limiting 
factor well below the device's actual power rating.

Those same small pieces that limit heat dissipation are what give the 
transistor the ability to go to such high frequencies.  The relatively 
large size of tubes limits their upper frequency due to transient times, 
although in some systems  the tube itself becomes part of the resonant 
circuit or even the actual circuit. (I phrased that poorly but I think 
the microwave guys will understand what I was trying to say).  For many 
tubes the internal lead length limits their usefulness to HF or very low 
VHF.

73

Roger (K8RI)


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