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Re: [Amps] Length of coax from xcvr to amp affecting input swr.

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Subject: Re: [Amps] Length of coax from xcvr to amp affecting input swr.
From: "Tony Brock-Fisher" <barockteer@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 16:48:50 -0500
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It seems the same misconception has appeared on two reflectors simultaneously, 
the TT reflector and this one! That being that adding a length of transmission 
line somehow affects the SWR on the line. 



The addition of lossless transmission line changes the complex impedance, but 
not the SWR. A perfect SWR meter would not show any difference with the 
addition of a length of lossless transmission line. A vector impedance meter of 
course would see a difference. For example, as transmission line is added, a 
Smith chart would show the different points along the line as a circle, having 
different real and complex impedances, but having a consistent SWR.




So what you are seeing is changes in the reported SWR with the internal meters 
you have due to impedance changes. This can be for one of two (or more) reasons:




1. There is RF on the outside of the coax. Try adding several beads on the coax 
and see if this makes things calm down, and gets identical readings with and 
without the jumper. Many SWR meters can be affected by RF on the outside of the 
line.




2. The meters are sensitive to the load impedance, and are not 'perfect' or 
'ideal' SWR meters. The internal SWR detection in HF rigs are usually pretty 
bad in this respect. Perhaps try a Bird meter to see what is really going on.




Another approach is to use a half-wavelength of line. This will make the actual 
input impedance at the amp repeat itself at the rig.




-Tony, K1KP



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