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Re: [Amps]  4CX5000A in common grid  circuit

To: Markku Oksanen <markku.a.oksanen@kolumbus.fi>, Carl <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>, Ville Lintervo <villelintervo@hotmail.com>, "amps@contesting.com" <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps]  4CX5000A in common grid  circuit
From: peter chadwick <g8on@fsmail.net>
Reply-to: g8on@fsmail.net
Date: Mon, 06 May 2013 00:20:30 +0200
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I'm not sure what you mean here by mu.

mu is dVp/dVg. Gm is dIp/dVg and ra is dVp/dIp

so mu is Gm times ra.


So for any given screen voltage, you can figure the mu, because at a given grid 
voltage, Va has increased or decreased (depending on phase) with control grid 
voltage and you can then figure out the plate current. Likewise, you can fix 
the screen volts and calculate the plate current at various points in the cycle 
and then apply Chaffee analysis. 

OK, it's long and messy but can be done by hand from the characteristic 
curves......

73

Peter G3RZP




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 Message Received: May 05 2013, 09:38 PM
 From: "Markku Oksanen" <markku.a.oksanen@kolumbus.fi>
 To: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>, "g8on@fsmail.net" <g8on@fsmail.net>, "Ville 
Lintervo" <villelintervo@hotmail.com>, "amps@contesting.com" 
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 Subject: RE: [Amps]  4CX5000A in common grid  circuit
 
 Hi
 I have all the components to build the grid supplies to fit the need, screen 
to +1600 V if necessary.I know the DC operating conditions need to be about the 
same no matter what the RF configuration is.
 I would still hope to find the a way to calculate the power gain in GG.I have 
a hard time finding the a way to translate tetrode (grid to screen grid) muu to 
equivalent triode muu.Or perhaps this is a silly question.
 Thanks
 MarkkuWW1C
 
 > From: km1h@jeremy.mv.com
 > To: g8on@fsmail.net; villelintervo@hotmail.com; amps@contesting.com
 > Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 09:41:01 -0400
 > Subject: Re: [Amps]  FW:  4CX5000A in common grid  circuit
 > 
 > That is a typical British understatement (-;
 > 
 > But also typical of many European signals.
 > 
 > Carl
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > >
 > > The G2DAF configuration has had, over many years, a very poor reputation 
 > > for producing broad signals.
 > >
 > > 73
 > >
 > > Peter G3RZP
 > >
 > > ========================================
 > > Message Received: May 05 2013, 11:07 AM
 > > From: "Ville Lintervo" <villelintervo@hotmail.com>
 > > To: "amps@contesting.com" <amps@contesting.com>
 > > Cc:
 > > Subject: Re: [Amps] FW: 4CX5000A in common grid circuit
 > >
 > > Markku,  Have you given a thought for g2daf -configuration tog serve your 
 > > purposes ? http://www.g4dmp.co.uk/g2daf-lin.pdfSM2CEW describes his 
 > > implementation with QBL5/3500 http://www.sm2cew.com/ampli.html  Ville 
 > > oh1jd
 > >
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