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Re: [Amps] where to begin

To: "Ulf (SM0NOR)" <ulf@sm0nor.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] where to begin
From: Alek Petkovic <vk6apk@bigpond.com>
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 05:34:38 +0800
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73, Alek
VK6APK

On 8/11/2013 12:50 AM, Ulf (SM0NOR) wrote:
Gustavo,
The ARRL 2013 is a very good source. Even better is William Orr's The Radio 
Handbook. The design chapters are very thorough and easy to understand. If you 
get either of the later editions, e.g. 18-23, the construction chapter is 
fairly relevant. You can easily find these on eBay or Amazon at a fair price. 
The 15th edition is available for free as a PDF on Internet. Just google it. 
The construction chapter is outdated, but the chapters about vacuum tube 
principles are really good.
A very good source are Ian's, G3SEK's construction manuals to the triode and 
tetrode board.
If your club have older editions of Ham Radio Magazine and QST, read everything 
about tubes from 1955 an onwards.
Other than that, thee are a lot of DIY projects on internet, just be careful. 
Many are good, but many are also lethal in their HV design. Don't skip the 
safety chapters! Ian, G3SEK also have an excellent article on that subject 
previously featured in Radcom. I think you can download them from his site.
Like you, I was a beginner 3-4 years ago. Since then I have read and reread 
everything above several times. I still know only a fraction of what other guys 
in this forum knows, but I'm able to build a decent amp with good security (I'm 
crazy about safety). You can too!
And again SAFTEY is paramount - never compromise on it! One of the first things I took ad 
notam was G3SEK's words "if you think you need to do anything inside an amp with the 
HV on, think again. There is always another way". So far I have never, ever tested 
an amp with the cabinet open.  (Only once have I broken that promise. For a photo shot of 
glowing tubes I operated it with remote control from a safe distance).

Good luck!
  73's
Ulf SM0NOR

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On 7 nov 2013, at 14:18, Gustavo LU6AGV<lu6agv@gmail.com>  wrote:

thanks to all about your replies.

I'll pickup 2013 handbook at a nice discount price.

and I believe that in the club there are a couple of old ones to learn
a little more.

I'll return latter :)

73's
Gustavo
LU6AGV


On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:24 AM, Roger (K8RI)<k8ri@rogerhalstead.com>  wrote:
On 11/6/2013 8:17 PM, Bill Turner wrote:

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On Wed, 6 Nov 2013 21:31:26 -0200, you wrote:

so, do you have any point, link, etc where I can learn about *Design
with valves* ???

REPLY:

The ARRL Handbook is a good place to start. Nearly everything you need is
in
there and when you run across something that's not clear, just ask a
question here. Recent editions are usually available on eBay or
amazon.com.
Don't get one more than about three years old.

If you also get it on disk, it turns searching for a particular topic,
reference, quote, or author from minutes or hours into a few seconds.

Although some of the older ones may have tubes/valves covered in more
detail.

The theory is good, but many of the circuit designs may have a flaw or two.

Newer books will have newer material although some of the out dated stuff
gets dropped. OTOH they have had a 4CX1600B amp in there for quite a few
years. It's a nice amp but the tube was dropped from production years ago.

They seem to change very little from year to year, but new stuff does get
added so, normally the latest is best and they have been on DVD for quite a
few years. You can install the book, or just copy the files and use a link
to the beginning to start it or click on setup application.

There is an extensive section on Vacuum Tube Basics with the rest of the
chapter evolving into amplifier design.

73 and good luck,

Roger (K8RI)


Good luck and have fun!

73, Bill W6WRT
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