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Re: [Amps] SB220 tune cap

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Subject: Re: [Amps] SB220 tune cap
From: Pete Smith N4ZR <n4zr@contesting.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 10:37:43 -0400
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About the best simple thing I ever did amps-wise was to put a piece of card stock behind the Tune and Load caps, and mark representative settings for each band on it. Since I did that I don't believe I've thrown an arc once, simply by always tuning to the band mark *before* applying drive.

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 4/19/2014 10:37 AM, Carl wrote:
That is correct Pete.

There are 2 basic reasons for SB-220 (and most all amps) arcing.

1. Open circuit at the relay, wrong band selected, high VSWR, tuner (many reasons), remote antenna switch, feedline/connectors, and antenna. A short may also cause it depending upon location.

2. High RF voltage in the tank circuit, usually during tuning. Making a tuning chart helps. Adding a 10-12pf 500V silver mica or a 1-3KV NPO disc ceramic between the 40-20M positions right at the switch will substantially reduce the risk.

Not having a clue how to tune an amp and swinging knobs all over the place with close to or full drive is the main cause of arcs.

Often capacitor arc damage can be removed if it is the later erector set construction by progressively sanding with 1000 to 2000 grit wet-dry paper and finish with a metal polish. End of the plate melt downs can be progessively filed down and then the sandpaper.

Carl
KM1H



----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Smith N4ZR" <n4zr@contesting.com>
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Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 5:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Amps] SB220 tune cap


IIRC, from this reflector years ago, all the change did was to move the location of arcing to the bandswitch

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 4/18/2014 8:10 PM, Jim W7RY wrote:
The later version was longer (more plates) and wider plate spacing. This was an attempt to fix the arcing issues on the SB220. Which is usually caused by ALC overshoot in the radio or RF being sent by the exciter before the antenna relay was energized.

There were 2 holes on the chassis. One for the short capacitor, and one for the long capacitor. The stud that is between the 10 meter coil and the bracket on the end of the tuning cap is also shorter (or removed) when the longer cap is used.

No other changes needed with either cap.

73
Jim W7RY


-----Original Message----- From: Paul Kraemer
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 12:54 PM
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Subject: [Amps] SB220 tune cap

Can someone please enlighten me on two different PA tune capacitors used in
the SB-220?
I have a 220 I am starting to rebuild and seeing initially that someone had "messed" with the PA tune cap I picked up a very clean replacement on ebay.
It was also mentioned that it was the "later" version PA tune cap.
The two look similar except the "newer" one appears better quality and has
more plates.
Any other differences in the tank circuit to go along with that?
Thanks
Paul K0UYA


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