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Re: [Amps] high drive/low output QRO HF-2500

To: steve@nr4m.com, amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] high drive/low output QRO HF-2500
From: Gerald Williamson via Amps <amps@contesting.com>
Reply-to: TexasRF@aol.com
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2015 16:08:52 -0500
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Steve, do you suppose one of the two tubes is not working?
 
73,
Gerld K5GW
 
 
 
In a message dated 3/2/2015 12:44:00 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
steve@nr4m.com writes:

Hi Carl,  and others,

My apologies for taking so long to get back you everyone on  this.  
'Life' got in the way.

I got the amp moved over to  another position and put the output into a 
dummy load.

Driving it  with an Omni 6, I got the same output on 40 as I did into an 
antenna  driving it with a K3.
The 4 square on 40 showed a 1.2:1 SWR and the dummy  load a 1:1.

On 20 meters, I tuned it up gradually to several levels of  input, doing 
it by the manual.  At 100 watts input from the rig, I  got 1250 watts out 
to the Bird wattmeter..  The input is 2100w +  (2500 volts @.850 ma)  
That's 59% efficiency if I don't count the 100  watts drive.
It tunes up easily, but I am not seeing the gain I once did.  40-50 watts 
input used to give me 1500 easily.  It's as if I lost 3-4  db of amp gain.

I used 20 meters as a second tune-up band as I don't  remember using any 
toroid inductors for the 20 meter tank circuit.   The 40 meter toroid 
part of the tank circuit looks like a 'grilled cheese  sandwich', with 
the plastic having heated and drooped down around the 40  meter toroid.  
Regarding the 40 meter toroid:  On 40 (and 20) it  tunes up at the 
approximate settings, per band, given in the manual, so I  am not looking 
at the cosmetic issues of the 40 meter toroid.  It  seems to have the 
correct inductance to resonate with the described  capacitor settings.

Suggestions?

73 de Steve, NR4M

On  2/20/2015 01:53, Carl wrote:
> Same problem on all  bands?
>
> Carl
> KM1H
>
>
> -----  Original Message ----- From: "Steve Bookout" <steve@nr4m.com>
>  To: <TexasRF@aol.com>; <amps@contesting.com>
> Sent:  Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [Amps] high drive/low  output QRO HF-2500
>
>
>> The K3 that is driving it shows  1.2 or 1.3 to 1 standing wave.
>>
>>  Steve
>>
>>
>> On 2/20/2015 00:31 , TexasRF@aol.com  wrote:
>>> 90W drive; how much reflected?
>>>  73,
>>> K5GW
>>> In a message dated 2/19/2015 5:22:23  P.M. Central Standard Time, 
>>> steve@nr4m.com  writes:
>>>
>>>     Hello  all,
>>>
>>>     Took a QRO HF-2500 out  of storage and put it on my 40 meter mult
>>>      station.
>>>
>>>     Tuned by the book  (because I never can remember how to tune this
>>>   thing
>>>     without the book...) and  the output is low  at about 1050 watts. 
>>>  This
>>>     is with about 90 watts of drive.   When last used it was used on 15
>>>      only,
>>>     but always got plenty of power  out.  Efficiency looks fine at
>>>     about  62%
>>>     (700ma @ 2400  volts)
>>>
>>>     As I recall, this  amp used to drive full output with 35, or so, 
>>>  watts.
>>>
>>>     Power doesn't drift,  and tunes up easy.  It's just acting more
>>>   like an
>>>     SB-220 than the amp it  is.
>>>
>>>     Plate and load cap  settings appear correct per the manual.
>>>
>>>   Ideas?
>>>
>>>     73 de  Steve, NR4M
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