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Re: [Antennaware] center loading versus ground loading

To: "Gary K9GS" <>, <>
Subject: Re: [Antennaware] center loading versus ground loading
From: "aa4nn" <>
Reply-to: aa4nn <>
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 15:23:52 -0500
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HI Gary,
All you need do is emulate the Battle Creek Special.
You can google to get specifics.  The BCS uses only
one wire to top load for 160m and only one wire to top
load for 80m.  Excellent switches, no tuning,
just change bands and go.  If you are unable to find
specs, let me know.
73 & all the best.
de Joe, aa4nn
Lake Wylie, SC

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary K9GS" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Antennaware] center loading versus ground loading

I have been contemplating an antenna design to cover 40, 80, 160M.
Basically ~32 ft of aluminum tubing/mast, a trap, then more tubing/mast to
~60 ft (possibly using a capacity hat to tune on 80M) and then a second trap
above the capacity hat with a T-top loading wire to tune on 160M.  My goal
would be no switching/control lines at the antenna.  I work almost
exclusively CW so I don't need to cover the entire 80/160M band.



Gary K9GS
Gary Schwartz           email: k9gs (at)
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Society of Midwest Contesters (SMC)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Art Trampler" <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 10:48 PM
Subject: [Antennaware] center loading versus ground loading

I live on a fairly small lot and use a Hy-Gain AV640 for 40 through 10 and
currently have no antenna for 80 or 160.

My backyard is about 90 x 70 but has some ill-placed and ill-shaped trees
for either wire antennas or a tower.

So I am thinking of another vertical, but this one ¼ wave with a radial
field.  I would like to get 80 and 160 out of it.  I don't mind having to
guy it, or even having to pour a concrete base for it.

My first thought is to use aluminum irrigation pipe as others have, and have
about 60 to 65 feet of it, an insulator and inductor and high voltage relay,
and then perhaps 15 to 20 of much smaller aluminum tubing, with a sloping
capacity hat of four wires going partially down the four top guys.  I don't
know if I could get away from the relay, and put up a trap instead but am
wary of using a true trap (coil & capacitor) rather than just a large, high
Q coil.

As you can see this idea is full of possibilities and mechanical drawbacks,
so the question is, is there that much to gain from the center-loaded design
with capacity hat, versus a switchable tuning network at the base of the

Your input is appreciated.  I am hoping to make this a summer project and
reward myself with 80 and 160 in the winter.



Art Trampler, KØRO

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