I warned you guys! Another antenna question...
I have two 3" x 24' booms. VERY thick walled. I bought them as two 4
element quads. I've been doing some work the past two weeks on optimizing
them into a 7 element on a 48' boom. It now occurs to me that I may be
wasting my time.
I also have two 402CD yagis that I had intended to stack for use on 40M.
Would it be smarter to sell the 402's and buy the aluminum needed to make two
full sized 2 element yagis? (I want to stick with 2 elements because I don't
want to hastle with replacing rotors and other hastles associated with a 3
element full sized.) Afterall, the biggest expense for these antennas is the
boom!
If the answer is yes... What do you recommend for element configuations for
such an antenna... As in, what sizes and how much overlap etc etc...
I sure appreciate your help, and putting up with my hogging the frequency!
Bill
KM9P@AOL.COM
>From j.p. kleinhaus" <kleinhaj@mary.iia.org Mon Mar 28 03:38:31 1994
From: j.p. kleinhaus" <kleinhaj@mary.iia.org (j.p. kleinhaus)
Subject: Single/Multi et al
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9403272254.A12785-0100000@mary>
Having just started using two radios in the last CQWW SSB contest,
I can certainly see no reason to go back to a one-radio setup.
The amount of empty time that goes to waste (especially during
the night or on Sunday afternoon) while CQ'ing is astonishing!
By making only 4 QSO's per hour on the second radio, you end up
with 200 Q's you would have thrown away...many of the top spots
are separated by less than this margin. It clearly requires
more ability and dedication than using one radio, but then that
is the measure of your desire to win. It combines skill (have YOU ever
tried to listen to two radios at once) and technical competency (it
is not easy operating on 40 & 15 at the same time).
Why should those who excel be forced into another cass by virtue
of their achievements? Should stations with more than 1 tower be
in a separate class? Those with towers above 70 ft? Above 100 ft?
I hardly think so. The fact is that the station competing with
a tribander at 50 ft does not expect to win. Should we stifle their
incentive by making a special class so they can win? No..we should
off encouragement and guidance so that they can improve their staions
and their skills. The fact is, I have placed in the World top-10 in
the CQWW with a tri-bander at 50 ft and an inverted vee in a tree.
I was in the SOA high-power categroy with the big boys. Yes yes I know,
I'm on the East coast etc. So what? Some of the guys I beat were running
major hardware right here on the East coast. What made the difference?
I think it was partly luck but mostly determination. I certainly
wouldn't want my victory cheapened by beig awarded a certificate for
a lesser category. Leave Single/Multi alone...it belongs in the
Single-Op category as the state of the art.
Next case: Bring back the top-10 boxes *along* with the new regional
boxes in the ARRL write-ups. No reason to do away with it.
73 de J.P. AA2DU
ARRL Hudson Div. CAC Rep.
>From Trey Garlough <GARLOUGH@TGV.COM> Mon Mar 28 03:58:35 1994
From: Trey Garlough <GARLOUGH@TGV.COM> (Trey Garlough)
Subject: igtony
Message-ID: <764827115.349375.GARLOUGH@TGV.COM>
> Does anyone know how to submit one's log to CQ by the internet?
Forget it. CQ is not QRV.
--Trey, WN4KKN/6
>From Trey Garlough <GARLOUGH@TGV.COM> Mon Mar 28 04:03:29 1994
From: Trey Garlough <GARLOUGH@TGV.COM> (Trey Garlough)
Subject: Single/Multi et al
Message-ID: <764827409.245375.GARLOUGH@TGV.COM>
> Next case: Bring back the top-10 boxes *along* with the new regional
> boxes in the ARRL write-ups. No reason to do away with it.
Hmm. I guess I have the minority viewpoint here. Of what relavence
are the top ten boxes? What is the point of having a having a overall
top ten box in a DX contest, when it is a duplicate of the east coast
top ten box? I don't get it.
It's not this way *every* time, but it will be during the next few.
--Trey, WN4KKN/6
>From Rick Zabrodski <zabrodsk@med.ucalgary.ca> Mon Mar 28 05:05:39 1994
From: Rick Zabrodski <zabrodsk@med.ucalgary.ca> (Rick Zabrodski)
Subject: Single/Multi et al
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9403272146.A25049-0100000@ume>
My other hobby is flying (and competing of course) sailplanes (high
performance, carbon fiber/kevlar gliders that fly 50 miles with one mile
of altitude). In gliding competitions we have several classes that are
more or less evenly matched according to wingspan (power/ performance
equivilant). However, there is a OPEN CLASS, where ANYTHING GOES (except
a motor of course!) Some of these motorless flyjing machines cost in
excess of 150K (I'm not kidding). However, anybody flying anything can
compete in the open class and guess what? Often, two or three of the
"lessor" aircraft make the top ten. Hardware, isn't everything. I use
my drake 4c that I bought as a teen in 1972 as a second reciever with a
sloping open wire feed dipole as my second reciever.....it helps all
right, us qrp guys need all the help we can get!
rick ve6gk....glider king 73
>From Dubberstein Steve" <dubberstein_steve@msmailer.hkimd.cig.mot.com Mon Mar
>28 07:50:07 1994
From: Dubberstein Steve" <dubberstein_steve@msmailer.hkimd.cig.mot.com
(Dubberstein Steve)
Subject: VS6WO WPX SSB M/M Score
Message-ID: <9403281838.AA11589@hkcmpc1.hkimd.cig.mot.com>
CQ WORLD WIDE WPX CONTEST 1994
Call: VS6WO Country: Hong Kong
Mode: SSB Category: Multi Multi
BAND QSO QSO PTS PTS/Q PREFIXES
160 0 0 0.0 0
80 394 1234 3.1 21
40 1048 4002 3.8 55
20 1904 4231 2.2 262
15 2963 6078 2.1 555
10 1157 1577 1.4 77
--------------------------------------
Totals 7466 17122 2.3 970 = 16,608,340
Operators: VS6WO, VR2GO, VR2IH, 9V1YC, JE1CKA, KJ4VH, K3WUW, DL5XX
Notes: This is a new Asian Multi/Multi record. Four stations, all antennas on
1/2 of an apartment rooftop. CT 8.42 had an annoying problem in Multi/Multi
mode of displaying the total QSO number rather than the per-band QSO number.
20 meters open all night on the second evening allowing us to gain enough QSO's
to break the record.
regards, steve VS6WO/NA9D
>From Paul Hellenberg <Paul.Hellenberg@mixcom.mixcom.com> Mon Mar 28 13:02:22
>1994
From: Paul Hellenberg <Paul.Hellenberg@mixcom.mixcom.com> (Paul Hellenberg)
Subject: WPX Scores
Message-ID: <199403281302.NAA21919@mixcom.mixcom.com>
WPX SSB Scores
KS9K BY N0BSH 785 X 443 = 810,690
WE9V @ KS9K 1674 X 696 = 2,653,152
Paul Hellenberg KS9K
paul.hellenberg@mixcom.com
>From rklein@lobo.rmh.pr1.k12.co.us (Ronald D. Klein) Mon Mar 28 13:14:21 1994
From: rklein@lobo.rmh.pr1.k12.co.us (Ronald D. Klein) (Ronald D. Klein)
Subject: WPX log e-mail address
Message-ID: <9403281314.AA57226@lobo.rmh.pr1.k12.co.us>
Forwarded message:
>
> > Does anyone know how to submit one's log to CQ by the internet?
>
> Forget it. CQ is not QRV.
>
> --Trey, WN4KKN/6
>
This post did provide an e-mail address for WPX logs - see below:
Ron - W0OSK
Errors-To: CQ-Contest-Relay@TGV.COM
Sender: CQ-Contest-Relay@TGV.COM
From: Steve Bolia N8BJQ <sdb@ag9v.ampr.org>
Reply-To: Steve Bolia N8BJQ <sdb@ag9v.ampr.org>
Subject: wpx contest e-mail info
To: cq <cq-contest@tgv.com>
Message-Id: <Pine.3.87.9403191852.A841-0100000@ag9v>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Status: RO
Starting with the 1994 contests, CQ WPX logs can be submitted via e-mail
on the internet. The e-mail address is sdb@ag9v.ampr.org. Logs must be in
ASCII format with all of the required information. The log should be
unformatted and space delimited. For those using "CT", WRITEARRL or
AK1AFORMAT will produce a file that is acceptable. Other popular
logging programs should produce unformatted ASCII files in a similar
format. A summary sheet and a sorted prefix list are also required. Please
include a phone or fax number where you can be reached. If electronic
submission is well received, it will be continued in the future. This
address is for CQ WPX Logs only.
Steve, N8BJQ
>From Tony Brock-Fisher <fisher@hp-and.an.hp.com> Mon Mar 28 14:22:17 1994
From: Tony Brock-Fisher <fisher@hp-and.an.hp.com> (Tony Brock-Fisher)
Subject: WX1Z MS WPX SCORE
Message-ID: <9403281422.AA16739@hp-and.an.hp.com>
CQ WORLD WIDE WPX CONTEST 1994
Call: WX1Z (at K1KP) Country: United States
Mode: SSB Category: Multi Single
BAND QSO QSO PTS PTS/Q PREFIXES
160 0 0 0.0 0
80 210 334 1.6 112
40 156 536 3.4 76
20 705 1403 2.0 288
15 1033 2566 2.5 255
10 35 100 2.9 17
--------------------------------------
Totals 2139 4939 2.3 748 = 3,694,372
All reports sent were 59(9), unless otherwise noted.
Operator List: WX1Z, N1OEK, K1KP, WA1S, KB2R
Equipment Description:
IC-765, SB-220, KT-34XA (70'), 40-2CD (80'), A4 (40'), Delta loop 80M,
386DX40, CT8.52
Club Affiliation: YCCC
This is to certify that in this contest I have operated
my transmitter within the limitations of my license and have
observed fully the rules and regulations of the contest.
Signature _________________________________
MAILING ADDRESS:
>From alan@dsd.es.com (Alan Brubaker) Mon Mar 28 14:36:13 1994
From: alan@dsd.es.com (Alan Brubaker) (Alan Brubaker)
Subject: WPX Score.
Message-ID: <9403281436.AA20904@dsd.ES.COM>
HC8A (N6KT opr)
QRP 3640 QSOs x ??? Mult.
All bands.
Rich had planned to go QRO but amplifier died at the last
minute. He started out running 1/2 watt because he mis-interpreted
the reading on his wattmeter! He increased power to 5 watts after
discovering the error. 10 meters was poor on Sunday, but was quite
productive on Saturday.
Alan, K6XO
>From Richard Hallman <0006135537@mcimail.com> Mon Mar 28 15:29:00 1994
From: Richard Hallman <0006135537@mcimail.com> (Richard Hallman)
Subject: KI3V/7 & WPX!
Message-ID: <20940328152902/0006135537NA5EM@mcimail.com>
CQ WORLD WIDE WPX CONTEST 1994
Call: KI3V/7 Country: United States
Mode: SSB Category: Single Operator
BAND QSO QSO PTS PTS/Q PREFIXES
160 4 4 1.0 3
80 124 228 1.8 34
40 177 1000 5.6 46
20 709 1077 1.5 367
15 461 818 1.8 163
10 42 93 2.2 14
--------------------------------------
Totals 1517 3220 2.1 627 = 2,018,940
Operating time: 20 hours.....
Well, Here we Go!! Conditions seemed to be SUPER for
the entire weekend. 15 meters started very slow on Friday
but picked up after that.
On Saturday night at about 7 PM the Alpha 77 shutdown
on its own. The Rcv signals were way down too. I figured that
the TR relay in the Alpha died or the TR switching had a problem.
Ive been working on solving a problem with the TR circuit
in the Alpha for the last few months and thought I really
messed something up now. Pulled amp apart and troubleshot
and didnt find anything wrong. Did some tests and all seemed to be
OK. Now its about 9 PM. Hooked rig to antennas direct and still
no Rcv!! Ahhh.......Remote Coax Switch!!! Since ALL antennas go
through the remote coax switch, I had nothing to use!
10 PM.....Took a trip up the tower with flash light, and I smelled a
bad burn smell coming from the switch box. Decided to wait till
Morning to pull box down before I fell down!
7 AM Sunday......Pulled the relay box down and found water
in two of the relays, and LOTSA burned stuff! Installed a
replacement Relay box and thought I was done.....NOT!
Had to replace PL-259 also from main feed to relay box!! Not fun
at 100 feet and having to solder!!
Put amp back together and operated for the last few hours.....
One of these days....... See Ya! Rich KI3V
AM I the only one that has these problems??? ha.....
>From jlgiasi@umassmed.UMMED.EDU (John L. Luigi Giasi) Mon Mar 28 15:42:42 1994
From: jlgiasi@umassmed.UMMED.EDU (John L. Luigi Giasi) (John L. Luigi Giasi)
Subject: WPX Scores
Message-ID: <9403281542.AA08910@umassmed.UMMED.EDU>
In the message from Paul Hellenberg, KS9K
->WPX SSB Scores
->
->KS9K BY N0BSH 785 X 443 = 810,690
single band 75m
->WE9V @ KS9K 1674 X 696 = 2,653,152
single band 15m
Paul would probably want you to know that.
73 de Luigi, AA1AA
--
John L. Luigi Giasi, AA1AA jlgiasi@umassmed.ummed.edu
System Programmer/Administrator
Information Resources Division
Univ. of Mass. Medical Center (508) 856-UNIX
Worcester, MA 01655 FAX: (508) 856-2440
>From bhorn@netcom.com (Bruce Horn) Mon Mar 28 16:11:02 1994
From: bhorn@netcom.com (Bruce Horn) (Bruce Horn)
Subject: WPX Result
Message-ID: <199403281611.IAA29958@mail.netcom.com>
CQ Worldwide WPX Contest - 1994
Call: WA7BNM
Mode: SSB
Category: Single Op, Single Band, Low Power (Unassisted)
Location: Southern California
Band QSO QSO Pts Pts/Q Prefixes
15 923 1780 1.9 473 = 841,940
Antenna: 6-el monoband yagi at 105 ft
Because of work commitments, wasn't able to start contest until
0130Z. Total on-time = 24.8 hours. 14% of QSOs were non-scoring
(i.e. no QSO points, not a multiplier). Had a lot fun in first
time single band effort.
73 de Bruce, WA7BNM (bhorn@netcom.com)
>From cook_a_r_j_andrew <cook_a_r_j_andrew@bt-web.bt.co.uk> Mon Mar 28
>16:25:18 1994
From: cook_a_r_j_andrew <cook_a_r_j_andrew@bt-web.bt.co.uk> (cook_a_r_j_andrew)
Subject: EME Contest
Hi All,
This was posted to the VHF reflector by one my colleagues. It is
however relevant to this forum also. I have to concur with SOME of the
sentiments expressed here - I wasn't QRV last year for the November
weekend of the EME contest since it clashed with the Region 1 2m CW
contest, and I certainly won't be on for either weekend this time if
it clashes with the biggest European contests of the year on 2m and
70cm respectively.
John's address is regnault_j_c@bt-web.bt.co.uk.
73,
Andy Cook, G4PIQ.
cook_a_r_j_andrew@bt-web.bt.co.uk
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TO: REGNAULT J C
Subject: 1994 ARRL eme Contest
Hi all,
Does anybody know, for sure, the dates for the 1994 ARRL eme contest ?
I hear a rumour that they have been chosen to be the fist weekends of
September and October.(Sept 3/4 & Oct 1/2) If that is the case, it
seems that yet again the ARRL has aranged the eme contest, where more
than 50% of the entrants are European, to clash with the major IARU
region 1 VHF events.
Is there no sense at all in those that advise the ARRL on these dates?
Everybody in the European VHF world knows that the first weekend in
September is the region 1 144MHZ contest, the first weekend in October
is the region 1 UHF-SHF event and the first weekend in November is the
region 1 144MHz CW event. Any clashes with eme events cause severe QRM
to those living within 300-500Km of the main centres of activity in
Europe. In addition a clash will reduce the number of stations active
for the eme contest.
The ARRL eme event managing to clash with one is bad enough but
clashing with two smells of a deliberate anti-Europe ploy in the
US.-could this be because the americans have noticed that they are
loosing their dominance of eme contests ?
An additional very undesirable feature of the September choice of
weekend is the close proximity, az & el, of the sum. The result of
this being to considerably raise the noise floor for those with
smaller arrays and cause side-lobe problems for those with larger
antennas. -the fact that this condition penalises the European
operator during his US window may be just a co-incidence.
Go on tell me it's not a plot
73's de John G4SWX
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