In a message dated 95-11-28 19:47:05 EST, I wrote:
>>Thanks for the post, Tack.... I agree completely... I send my call at the
>>end of every separate contact... and I send your call < plus the
exchange,
>>of course > when I work you, which is a requirement of our FCC
>>regulations... which is TOTALLY ignored by most of the big gun stations I
>>listened to...
OK... one last time on this thread... and, I'm here to tell ya that eating
crow leaves a bad, bad aftertaste... I got a half dozen emails to the effect
that my position on this regulation is wrong... (not a flamer in the bunch,
can ya believe...) Well, I'm never completely WRONG, maybe just a little
enthusiastic at times... So, I whipped around and jerked my copy of part 97
off the shelf, a bit tattered and dog eared since 1963, but still legible...
sure enough, I am 100% american, red necked, Right!....
Still, a slight tinkle of doubt entered my mind, mostly because the emails on
this topic were so courteous - like in dealing with a slightly retarded
child, hmmm?.... OK, there is just the faintest, one in a billion gazillion
chance, that the friendly candy company has made a slight mod or two in 32
years... ( part 97 is not high on my bed time reading list :) Soooo, I
zipped off a call to the ultimate shrine of hamdom, personal radio
division... They were very, very polite - like in dealing with a slightly
retarded child...
"Yes, that was correct, but the regulations have been changed.".....
oh, really.... when?...
"Not that long ago... Maybe 18 or 20 years."....< i detected a slight
snicker>
so, what is the current regulation for non 3rd party communications?
"You must identify on the initial transmission, at the end of the final
transmission of a series , and at least every ten minutes inbetween, so our
monitoring stations can identify you"...
ummm, what about identifying the other station?
"That is his problem, not yours."...
and that's it?...
"That's it."
So, that's it... baked crow, very dry, with a sprinkle of alum... I just may
have to get a NEW part 97 to see what other delicious recipes for baked crow
are contained therein...
QRZ CONTEST.... guess who, if you can...
>From Bill Feidt <wfeidt@cpcug.org> Thu Nov 30 22:56:04 1995
From: Bill Feidt <wfeidt@cpcug.org> (Bill Feidt)
Subject: NG3K WWW Page Needs Assistance
Message-ID: <9511302256.AA26595@cliff.nal.usda.gov>
As some of you may be aware, since April I have been
HTML encoding the major Internet-distributed DX
bulletins and making them available through my personal
Web home page (http://www.cpcug.org/user/wfeidt/). Over
time, the pages have developed a significant following,
and many other pages have linked to mine. My access
logs now exceed 1 MB per month.
Unfortunately, I have now reached the limit of the
disk space allotted to me. If I am to avoid deleting
some of the older issues, I need to find additional
disk capacity on a Web server somewhere and migrate
the older material to it.
Based on current bulletin sizes I estimate a need for
approximately 1.5 MB of disk per year. If you have
5 to 10 MB of disk available on a reliable Web server,
I'd be very pleased to hear from you.
Ideally, I'm hoping to find the following:
* 5 - 10 MB of Disk Capacity
* A reliable web Server (doesn't crash often)
* A reliable network connection
* A personal shell account with telnet and ftp
access to the disk space and the ability
to use the tcsh UNIX shell
* The ability to create a directory structure
within the disk space allotted me.
* The ability to set file permission within the
allotted disk space
Bandwidth shouldn't be too great an issue since demand
for the older issues is far less than for the new ones.
If you can help, please contact me directly, at:
wfeidt@cpcug.org
Please DO NOT reply to the list and thanks for taking the
time to consider my plea.
Fraternally,
Bill/NG3K
wfeidt@cpcug.org
>From btippett@ctc.net (Bill Tippett) Thu Nov 30 22:11:00 1995
From: btippett@ctc.net (Bill Tippett) (Bill Tippett)
Subject: 'Cut" Numbers (Again)
Message-ID: <01HY9HW14NT48ZDVYA@SUNBELT.NET>
KR0Y wrote:
. Don't the East Coasters
>have a big enough advantage already, particularly when there isn't a
>good abbreviation for 04 or 03 for us living in [DX Contest]
>propagationally challenged areas ?
>
Jeff, you're just not looking at the opportunity in this! Now you can send
KRTY in retaliation!
MS, Bill WTZV
P.S. Got an "SMTP delivery failure" from you when I tried to send this
directly...maybe it was the abbreviations for the numbers? Seriously,
you might want to check it out.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bill Tippett, PO Box 37, New London, NC 28127-0037 USA
Phone/FAX: +1 704-463-1445 E-mail: btippett@ctc.net
>From Jim Hollenback" <jholly@hposl62.cup.hp.com Thu Nov 30 23:21:51 1995
From: Jim Hollenback" <jholly@hposl62.cup.hp.com (Jim Hollenback)
Subject: UNconfirmed calls
References: <5J0DFD1w165w@w2up.wells.com>
Message-ID: <9511301521.ZM18592@hpwsmjh1.cup.hp.com>
On Nov 30, 2:34pm, barry wrote:
<snip>
> One question arises - is this policy fair? Let's suppose the following
> occurs:
> W2UP: CQ CQ TEST DE W2UP W2UP K
> DX: DL2XXX
> W2UP: DL2XXX 59905
> DX: TU 59914
> W2UP: TU TEST DE W2UP
>
> In this exchange DL2XXX never sent my call, so I don't know if he got it
> right or not. If he didn't, the contact's removed from the log. SOund
> fair? Not to me. Suggestions?
sure it fair Barry. You both kept your rate up ... isn't that what you
want?
How about ...
W2UP: CQ CQ TEST DE W2UP W2UP K
DX: DL2XXX
W2UP: DL2XXX 59905
DX: TU 59914
W2UP: MY CALL? BK
DX: <static and random noises>
W2UP: <SHIFT F8>
w2UP: CQ CQ TEST DE W2UP W2UP K
At least with this you get to reduce your log your self, and if your lucky,
the other guy gets his log knocked down. Guess that is why is send
WA6SDM: W2UP TU 59903
But now the you mention it, this is a great way to go after the hi-speed,
don't like to id guys ... work'em and then scratch them from your log.
73, Jim, WA6SDM
jholly@cup.hp.com
>From ve9dx@mi.net (ve9dx) Thu Nov 30 23:19:44 1995
From: ve9dx@mi.net (ve9dx) (ve9dx)
Subject: CW results from VA9DH
Message-ID: <199511302319.TAA20392@itchy.mi.net>
Good evening all,
Here are the results of the CQWW CW weekend:
Station: VA9DH operating from near Moncton, New Brunswick.
Class: Multi/Single
Operators: K2NJ (VE9NJ), WA2ASM, AK4L (VE1RM), VE9DH, VE9DX and VE9WH.
Now for the results:
Band QSO's P/QSO's Zones Countries
160 338 2.16 16 54
80 1028 2.38 20 73
40 1212 2.59 32 107
20 1320 2.70 27 102
15 297 2.84 24 80
10 11 2.36 7 10 (Yes we tried 10 often ..No joy..
Totals 4206 QSO's 126 Z 426 Countries
Final score 5,932,896 points. Short of the Canadian M/S record by about 1
million points.
Another breakdown which you may find interesting:
QSO's
160 80 40 20 15 10 All Percent
North America 271 590 484 381 42 5 1773 41.7
South America 4 7 11 12 12 5 51 1.2
Europe 63 431 678 903 227 0 2302 54.2
Asia 0 1 36 20 0 0 57 1.3
Africa 1 8 16 15 11 1 52 1.2
Oceania 1 1 6 1 5 0 14 0.3
Needless to say the polar route was not there for us this year.
For all those that worked us a big thanks and hope we see you all during the
1996 CQWW SSB and CW test when we will again try to improve on the Canadian
records.
73... Andy (VE9DX)
VE9DX@mi.net
Ex: VE1ASJ, VE1DX, VE8CW, VO2AB, CY0SPI, VE1SPI, HP9FC, ZD9BP etc.
>From kf3p@cais.cais.com (Tyler Stewart) Thu Nov 30 23:41:09 1995
From: kf3p@cais.cais.com (Tyler Stewart) (Tyler Stewart)
Subject: FT1000MP/ALPHA 87 Combination
Message-ID: <199511302341.SAA02545@cais.cais.com>
>Fellow TCGer and Contester Extraordinaire Don, N4ZZ, just purchased a
>FT1000MP. He was told by Yaesu and seller that it was compatible with his
>A87. Seems to be great on CW but RF power control in out-of-the-circuit on
>SSB with processor on and menu options for "power output" are not flexible
>enough to properly drive the 87 (10W too little, 50W too much). His
>discussions with ETO indicate incompatibility while Yaesu says it should work
>by using ALC (not recommended by ETO). Anyone got an answer?
>
>
> 73 es TIA,
>
> Mark K0EJ
>
>p.s. respond direct-will summarize if interested
Wow, that seems inconceivable for a high-yen radio.
Without knowing much about the MP, I'll speculate that the set power levels
can be adjusted internally with pots.
The other solution is to adjust the tuning on the 87 so that it will accept
50 watts of drive without excessive grid current. This can be done with
careful adjustment of the loading setting. I'm sort of surprised that 50 watts
is too much...I generally use about 50 watts of drive for my 87's on all bands
and make minor adjustments to the loading to get the grid current right on
each band segment. I try to avoid having to change the input power level
from the rig at all costs and 50 watts seems to be the right setting unless
I'm feeding a very poorly matched antenna.
73, Tyler KF3P
>From peterj@netcom.com (Peter Jennings) Thu Nov 30 23:50:41 1995
From: peterj@netcom.com (Peter Jennings) (Peter Jennings)
Subject: CW filters for TS-50 ?
Message-ID: <199511302350.PAA03327@netcom5.netcom.com>
Does anyone know if there is a 250Hz CW filter available for the
TS-50? I know that Kenwood offers a 500Hz. Does anyone have any
experience with it? Will the TS-50 perform acceptably on the
DX end of a pileup?
I have been unable to find any recent ads from International ??? that used
to sell aftermarket filters. Have they disappeared, or metamorphosed
into somebody else?
TIA
Peter
AB6WM
-- peterj@netcom.com
URL: http://mall.turnpike.net/~jc/
>From jreid@aloha.net (Jim Reid) Thu Nov 30 23:51:57 1995
From: jreid@aloha.net (Jim Reid) (Jim Reid)
Subject: Vanity calls and my Error!
Message-ID: <199511302351.NAA00438@hookomo.aloha.net>
>To: "Bliss, Norman, WA1CCQ" <NBLISS@arrl.org>
>From: jreid@aloha.net (Jim Reid)
>Subject: Vanity calls and my Error!
>
>Aloha Norm,
>
>Thank you for your note. Well, I sure didn't mean to have my
>post reflect againt the ARRL. I worded my sentence obviously
>wrong; also had the incorrect info as well ! I am sorry.
>
>We here in Hawaii are very grateful to Brad Wyatt, the ARRL
>Pacific Division Director for initiating (at our request) questions re
>KL and KH calls being issued to mainland hams. There are already
>plently of them there (similarly KP4). And we thank the Board for
>accepting Brad's thoughts. and also, thank you and your efforts to the
>FCC to make it happen. Now, all the KH7x calls will stay out
>here, as well as the only single character KH6 call available:
>KH6T. (KH6E, Ron Kokubo's call will be obtained by the Island
>of Kauai ARC. Ron's family have already written their letter of
>approval). Many of the Old Timer Hawaiian calls will also
>become available, again: KH6AB, AC, AD, etc. KH6AA is
>still alive and well in Honolulu, born only in 1921! However,
>KH6A now lives in Wichita! (and is 19 yrs younger than 6AA).
>
>So thank you to the ARRL again from those of us in the Pacific,
>Alalska, and the Caribbean for what you have done for us!
>
>Mahalo and 73,
>
>Jim, AH6NB (Sometime in '96 to be KH7x something; sure don't
> care for the "AH" prefix, but all any of us
can get w/
> A or E tickets)
>
73 and Aloha,
Jim Reid, AH6NB (Happily retired on the Island of Kauai)
Hawaii, USA Email: jreid@aloha.net
>From Steve Steltzer <steve.steltzer@paonline.com> Tue Nov 7 04:17:26 1995
From: Steve Steltzer <steve.steltzer@paonline.com> (Steve Steltzer)
Subject: WF3T SS cw score and comments
Message-ID: <01BACBBC.59A22A40@slip75.paonline.com>
ARRL SWEEPSTAKES -- 1995
Call: WF3T Country:
Mode: CW Category: Single Operator High Power
BAND QSO QSO PTS SECTIONS
160 0 0 -
80 229 458 -
40 525 1050 -
20 142 284 -
15 60 120 -
10 0 0 -
-----------------------------------
Totals 956 1912 74
Score: 141,488
Power Output: 1500 watts Hours of operation: 23
Equipment Description: IC 775DSP, KT34XA's @90 & 45, 40-2cd @ 100,
80 mtr Inv V @ 80, Commander, Top Ten antenna
control
Club Affiliation: Frankford Radio Club
This is to certify that in this contest I have operated
my transmitter within the limitations of my license and have
observed fully the rules and regulations of the contest.
Signature _________________________________
MAILING ADDRESS:
Steve Steltzer WF3T
944 Cedars Road
Lewisberry, Pa. 17339
Excuses, appologies, and other whining for the reflector:
Missed YU, VI, and AK - again! Did manage to beat my last years score by 60
Q's though. Couldn't get anything going on 15 or 20 with any antenna
selection. Seemed like 1 way prop, had guys S9 to 10 over having trouble
hearing me. Would suspect something screwed up on new XA stack, but in CQP
and Pa Party was getting "Big sig" comments and switching high-low didn't
seem to make any difference being heard. Made a trip up the tower Sun to
remove 160 inverted L just put up Friday, thought that might have been
affecting something. Don't think it made any difference. Anybody remember
my sig on 15 or 20? Would appreciate a note.
Worked an amazing number of QRP stns, quite a few with incredible signals.
Got 1 check of 19 and a couple 28's!
First major contest with IC 775 - found a MAJOR flaw (or problem with
mine) I'll be calling them about. Filter blowby or DSP overload caused
weird chirps, beeps, dits, etc, would shut down the AGC, lose the sig ur
working. Turning AGC off didn't help, then the crap just covered the sig up
entirely. Most of the test ran with 6 or 12 db of attenuation, 250 hz and
80hz audio peak filters in. RIT got a real workout. Helped but didn't stop
it entirely. So appologies to those who called I couldn't hear. Anybody
else have this problem with the 775 or is it just mine? And to the guy I
was in the middle of working when the AC went off and right back on Sun.
Thank God for surge protectors.
73, Steve
>From zs6nw@leclub.co.za (Jan Zs6Nw) Sun Oct 29 03:49:00 1995
From: zs6nw@leclub.co.za (Jan Zs6Nw) (Jan Zs6Nw)
Subject: WAE from Mauritius
Message-ID: <12f.47657.400.0CAF51D1@leclub.co.za>
Mauritius (3B8) is a breathtakingly beautiful Indian ocean island. It
is located at 20 degrees south and 57.5 degrees east. People who have
been to both 3B8 and Tahiti say they prefer the white beaches and
tropical friendliness of the inhabitants of 3B8.
Ilze and I visited 3B8 for our last childless holiday--junior arrives 15
November... So I decided the holiday should be without ham radio for a
change. To be safe I took along a standard AM radio with the commercial
short wave bands. Anyway, to make a long story short, after two days of
fretting I borrowed a second AM radio from the landlord, tuned it 455
kHz up the band (to act as a BFO), scrounged 4 meters of wire for an
antenna, and was hearing CW signals on 40m! (Serious BFO drift)
So, on my tiny little AM radio with the 4m vertical on 3B8, on 8/8/95,
40m CW, 07h00 local time, I heard V5/ZS6YG working these guys:
AA2SZ, N4CC, W2WG, N3BNA, KF3P, 7P8SR, W7CB. It felt just like home.
And, of course, just a teensy while after the band closed, like in many
contests, I heard K3ZO at 07h35...
On 12/8/95, 04h30 local time, 40m CW, W3KK calling CQ TEST!
That evening (19h50), I also heard T5IW call CQ TEST.
On the morning of the 13th at 05h00 local time I was awake to chalk up
the stateside contest gang: K1JKS, N6AR, K2LE, DF0WA, KE2PF, KC1XX,
K4PQL. To get rid of the not-in-contest-blues I snorkelled in the
tropical waters during the day.
The following is not strictly contest (is a pileup a mini contest?) but
on 16-8-95 at 06h50 local time the stateside gang was fighting for the
favours of ZC4C. I chalked some really familiar calls during the next
two hours: AA5BT, KY5I, N5ZZ, KI8W, K9BN, NA4M, AA0AA, N5AR, W8XM, NA4M,
N4TD, K5LP, W5LT, W8RQQ, AA5YU, KF8EP, KF2E.
How I managed to get hold of 3B8CF (by finding a demo Internet
connection and looking him up in one of the callsign data basis) is
another story. Anyway, I visited him and to my surprise found out that
he also runs a bed & breakfast setup with full access to his shack with
10/15/20/40m beams and a TS440. On 17-8-95 he had no takers for the CQWW
CW contest, so if you ever wanted to occupy a tropical island for the
CQWW CW, without all the hassles, his phone # is +230 424 5866.
To summarize, never take along anything on a hamless holiday that can be
converted into a receiver for the ham bands. The yearning for the
familiar pitter of the bencher contacts is beyond the written word.
73
Jan Zs6nw
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>From zs6nw@leclub.co.za (Jan Zs6Nw) Sun Oct 29 03:49:00 1995
From: zs6nw@leclub.co.za (Jan Zs6Nw) (Jan Zs6Nw)
Subject: WAE from Mauritius
Message-ID: <12f.47670.400.0CAF51D7@leclub.co.za>
Mauritius (3B8) is a breathtakingly beautiful Indian ocean island. It
is located at 20 degrees south and 57.5 degrees east. People who have
been to both 3B8 and Tahiti say they prefer the white beaches and
tropical friendliness of the inhabitants of 3B8.
Ilze and I visited 3B8 for our last childless holiday--junior arrives 15
November... So I decided the holiday should be without ham radio for a
change. To be safe I took along a standard AM radio with the commercial
short wave bands. Anyway, to make a long story short, after two days of
fretting I borrowed a second AM radio from the landlord, tuned it 455
kHz up the band (to act as a BFO), scrounged 4 meters of wire for an
antenna, and was hearing CW signals on 40m! (Serious BFO drift)
So, on my tiny little AM radio with the 4m vertical on 3B8, on 8/8/95,
40m CW, 07h00 local time, I heard V5/ZS6YG working these guys:
AA2SZ, N4CC, W2WG, N3BNA, KF3P, 7P8SR, W7CB. It felt just like home.
And, of course, just a teensy while after the band closed, like in many
contests, I heard K3ZO at 07h35...
On 12/8/95, 04h30 local time, 40m CW, W3KK calling CQ TEST!
That evening (19h50), I also heard T5IW call CQ TEST.
On the morning of the 13th at 05h00 local time I was awake to chalk up
the stateside contest gang: K1JKS, N6AR, K2LE, DF0WA, KE2PF, KC1XX,
K4PQL. To get rid of the not-in-contest-blues I snorkelled in the
tropical waters during the day.
The following is not strictly contest (is a pileup a mini contest?) but
on 16-8-95 at 06h50 local time the stateside gang was fighting for the
favours of ZC4C. I chalked some really familiar calls during the next
two hours: AA5BT, KY5I, N5ZZ, KI8W, K9BN, NA4M, AA0AA, N5AR, W8XM, NA4M,
N4TD, K5LP, W5LT, W8RQQ, AA5YU, KF8EP, KF2E.
How I managed to get hold of 3B8CF (by finding a demo Internet
connection and looking him up in one of the callsign data basis) is
another story. Anyway, I visited him and to my surprise found out that
he also runs a bed & breakfast setup with full access to his shack with
10/15/20/40m beams and a TS440. On 17-8-95 he had no takers for the CQWW
CW contest, so if you ever wanted to occupy a tropical island for the
CQWW CW, without all the hassles, his phone # is +230 424 5866.
To summarize, never take along anything on a hamless holiday that can be
converted into a receiver for the ham bands. The yearning for the
familiar pitter of the bencher contacts is beyond the written word.
73
Jan Zs6nw
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>From zs6nw@leclub.co.za (Jan Zs6Nw) Sun Oct 29 04:21:00 1995
From: zs6nw@leclub.co.za (Jan Zs6Nw) (Jan Zs6Nw)
Subject: Contest headphones
Message-ID: <12f.47671.400.0CAF51D8@leclub.co.za>
After wearing Peltor H7A ear protectors for many days while working on
my PC, I have reached the conclusion that they will make the ultimate
contest headphones.
The H7A are designed to be comfortably worn the whole day, and
completely block out all outside noise without punishing your outer
ears.
What I'm gonna do is to to remove the two transducers from my Heil
headset and install them inside the H7A ear protectors.
In South Africa we buy the H7As from a UK company called RS components.
73s
Jan Zs6nw
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>From zs6nw@leclub.co.za (Jan Zs6Nw) Sun Oct 29 04:29:00 1995
From: zs6nw@leclub.co.za (Jan Zs6Nw) (Jan Zs6Nw)
Subject: Foot switch
Message-ID: <12f.47675.400.0CAF51DC@leclub.co.za>
I use a great foot switch made by a European company called
Marquardt--it's bigger than the Heil, and has just the right touch. You
can trod on it barefoot, or with them shoes on. The price is ok.
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>From Fred Hopengarten" <k1vr@k1vr.jjm.com Sun Oct 1 04:34:32 1995
From: Fred Hopengarten" <k1vr@k1vr.jjm.com (Fred Hopengarten)
Subject: more on guywires and insulators
Message-ID: <306e0c4a.k1vr@k1vr.jjm.com>
On Sat, 30 Sep 1995 03:36:59 -0700, "Stan Griffiths" <w7ni@teleport.com>
wrote:
> I had visions of the neighborhood kids lighting my guy system on fire and
> the black flaming goo landing on my roof and burning my house down. If
they
> didn't think of that, they might be able to bring my tower down with a
> pocket knife and a little patience. How do you Phillystran users protect
> against this kind of vandalism?
>
> Stan W7NI@teleport.com
K1VR replies: I use 3/16 EHS rising to a height of 12 feet
above the ground. A dedicated vandal will have to show up
with his own A-frame ladder, or lineman's truck with cherry
picker.
--
Fred Hopengarten K1VR
Six Willarch Road * Lincoln, MA 01773-5105
home + office telephone: 617/259-0088 (FAX on demand)
internet: k1vr@k1vr.jjm.com
"Big antennas, high in the sky, are better
than small ones, low."
>From Fred Hopengarten" <k1vr@k1vr.jjm.com Sun Oct 1 04:30:52 1995
From: Fred Hopengarten" <k1vr@k1vr.jjm.com (Fred Hopengarten)
Subject: Tower Climbing Guards
Message-ID: <306e0b70.k1vr@k1vr.jjm.com>
On Sat, 30 Sep 1995 15:32:39 -0500, WR3O@music-city.tdec.state.tn.us wrote:
> As the kids in my neighborhood get older, I think it's time to
> consider an anti-climbing guard around the base of my tower.
>
> I have seen articles in the past (long before I had a tower) but
> can't seem to locate the articles now. How do you folks do it?
At the suggestion and at the table saw of W1IFL, I took a
piece of C/D (construction grade) plywood (4'x 8') and cut
it into three pieces. Each piece meets the next in a
triangle of wood eight feet tall around my Rohn 25. Start
at two feet above ground and you now have an anti-climbing
device rising to ten feet in height.
On the inner surface of two pieces, mount u-shaped wood by
bolting the u-shapes firmly to the plywood around tower
rungs. For the remaining, removable, piece, use a pair of
hooks upside down to hang it on a rung.
At the bottom, and inside the tower, mount a triangle of
wood. Using a clasp set (a hole and a ring), lock the
removable piece to the tower so that a Masterlock
combination lock is hanging down UNDER the triangle of wood.
This keeps water out of the mechanism. As a combination
lock, it prevents you from forgetting your key -- having
already trudged 300' through three foot thick snow.
Engrave the combination into the wood, somewhere visible, in
Morse code. If your local vandals can figure out where to
look, and what they are looking at, and can then translate
the dots and dashes into a combination, they should be
signed up as novices for next Field Day! They have a
sincere desire to look at antennas -- up close and personal.
Price:
Plywood, one piece $ 8
Scrap wood for triangle
and u-channel 0
Misc nuts and bolts 2
Two hooks 2
Clasp set 2
Lock 4
Sealing paint for wood 7
Total $25
--
Fred Hopengarten K1VR
Six Willarch Road * Lincoln, MA 01773-5105
home + office telephone: 617/259-0088 (FAX on demand)
internet: k1vr@k1vr.jjm.com
"Big antennas, high in the sky, are better
than small ones, low."
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