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RE: [CQ-Contest] LZ DX Contest , Unique QSOs and FAQ at LZDXC website

To: <jukka.klemola@nokia.com>, <wally@el-soft.com>
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] LZ DX Contest , Unique QSOs and FAQ at LZDXC website
From: <jukka.klemola@nokia.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:20:09 +0200
List-post: <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
We had a private discussion with Wally.

I apologize my misunderstanding the rules of LZ DC Contest.


DQ happens only if 30% of unique calls are _proven_ busted.


That can happen only if an individual has done 'improperly inaccurate'  job.


73,
Jukka OH6LI



> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com 
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of ext 
> Sent: 04 November, 2003 13:20
> To: wally@el-soft.com
> Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] LZ DX Contest , Unique QSOs and FAQ 
> at LZDXC website
> 
> 
> OK
> For a 'relatively rare' DX station in LZ Contest case this is true.
> So one does not need to be technically more advanced to get a DQ
> with the curent rules.
> 
> In SAC, we do not have such rules that would limit DX participance.
> 
> 
> 73,
> Jukka, OH6LI
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ext Valeri Stefanov [mailto:wally@el-soft.com]
> > Sent: 04 November, 2003 14:10
> > To: Klemola Jukka (NMP/Salo)
> > Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] LZ DX Contest , Unique QSOs and FAQ 
> > at LZDXC web site
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Jukka,
> > 
> > Thanks for the input.
> > The decision for these 30% was a joint decision of the 
> > contest committee,so
> > I can not change it.
> > Please mention that these are NOT for ALL QSOs made, but for 
> > UNIQUE QSOs
> > made ONLY. "Normal" busted calls are just removed from the 
> > log without any
> > penalties imposed whatever the percentage of "bad" QSOs is.
> > 
> > Big number of unique QSOs happen to rare stations in LZDXC 
> > like ZF2NT in
> > 2002 LZDXC for example.
> > So, they decided to make a nessessary changes, so such 
> > problematic cases to
> > become definetively resolved starting 2003 contest.
> > 
> > Their main pass was that they missed to include a FAQ file 
> > together with the
> > rules. Now this mistake is corrected and everyone can go to 
> > the web site and
> > read about rules and log checking procedure. After reading 
> > them he could
> > take the decision - will he take part in LZDXC or not. Once 
> > the decision has
> > been made every participant must obey the rules as in every 
> > other contest.
> > 
> > See you  in the contest after two weeks :-))
> > 
> > 73s de Wally LZ2CJ
> > http://www.qsl.net/lz1fw/contest
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <jukka.klemola@nokia.com>
> > To: <wally@el-soft.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 9:57 AM
> > Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] LZ DX Contest , Unique QSOs and FAQ 
> > at LZDXC web
> > site
> > 
> > 
> > I consider 15% of bad calls to be the limit for this in SAC 2003.
> > 30% uniques is possible (in principle) figure if a station
> > is technically MUCH better than the others.
> > 
> > 73,
> > jukka OH6LI
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
> > > [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of ext
> > > Valeri Stefanov
> > > Sent: 03 November, 2003 13:38
> > > To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > > Subject: [CQ-Contest] LZ DX Contest , Unique QSOs and FAQ at
> > > LZDXC web site
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Fellow Contesters,
> > >
> > > After a numerous postings about the 2002 log checking
> > > procedure of LZ DX
> > > Contest on this reflector, with my help a Contest committee
> > > has created an
> > > FAQ file on the contest web site  www.qsl.net/lz1fw/contest 
> > which now
> > > makes a whole log checking procedure clear for everyone who
> > > might decide to
> > > take part in LZDXC 2003.( CW & SSB from 2003 )
> > >
> > > No longer a unique contact will be removed from your log.
> > > However, all unique calls in top three stations logs in each
> > > category will
> > > be carefully checked one by one by contest committee and IF
> > > "bad" unique
> > > QSOs are over 30 % of all unique QSOs made in the contest 
> > by a certain
> > > station, then log of this station will be counted as check 
> > log only !
> > >
> > > Please visit the web site and read carefully the FAQ file
> > > which hopefully
> > > will give you all answers you may need before taking part in
> > > probably most
> > > dinamic contest of all  :-)) ! ( And it does not coinside
> > > with SS SSB as
> > > wrongly stated earlier )
> > >
> > > Looking forward to working you on 22nd -23rd November in
> > > LZDXC. Make your
> > > rehearseal for CQ WW CW  and have fun :-)) !
> > >
> > > 73's de Wally LZ2CJ ( LZ8T in LZDXC )
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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