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Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest behavior, peer group, SS

To: Tom Horton <k5iid@ntelos.net>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest behavior, peer group, SS
From: "Alan C. Zack" <k7acz@cox.net>
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:15:42 -0800
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I have to dig out my DXCC paperwork I submitted at that convention.  I
scribbled his call down on my envelope so the next time I contest from
DU land I'll be sure not to answer him!  I'll get back to you.

Tom Hotrod wrote:
> 
> Alan,
>  What is his call?  Inquiring minds would like to know who this jerk
> was!
> 73, Tom K5IID
> 
> At 21:17 11/27/03, Alan C. Zack wrote:
> 
> > I observe some people will still act as Jerks.  Last year at
> > Visalia
> > one 6'er from the NCCC jumped the line at the DXCC checking
> > payment
> > desk in front of me and a couple of others and I told him, excuse
> > me
> > there is a line here.  His reply was that he has known the guy
> > taking
> > the money for a long time, as if that was any excuse to jump the
> > line.  Since this guy was a good friend of the person taking the
> > money
> > he was allowed to jump the line over the protests of 3 of us who
> > had
> > been in line waiting our turn.  These are the guys who would have
> > no
> > qualms calling the DX out of turn or tail ending and covering up
> > the
> > DX before you got your signal report from him when it is your
> > turn.
> >
> > "Scott R." wrote:
> > >
> > > >Though I've mocked it perhaps, or questioned it, I have no
> > doubt of
> > > >the importance of the "off-season" or between-contests
> > "politics."  If
> > > >you act like a jerk to the 99% of the "regular guys" when you
> > see them
> > > >at Dayton, they may not go out of their way to make sure they
> > give you
> > > >a QSO next year.  They probably won't forget how you treated
> > them and
> > > >may even exercise their prerogative to not give you a QSO next
> > time.
> > >
> > > Actually, I've always felt people are generally on good behavior
> > at
> > > Dayton - civil conversations can be had even with people I don't
> > > particularly like (or don't like me, as a turnabout - no
> > illusions...)
> > >
> > > The "off-season" and "contest politics" are important if you
> > feel that
> > > one of the things that is necessary for contest success is the
> > > admiration of the peer group.  There are at least a couple of
> > people
> > > (not you, Rich) that I can think of who have exhibited bad
> > behavior
> > > during contests repeatedly, are obnoxious in real life, but post
> > > consistently good scores.  Are they successful?  Yes.  Do other
> > > contesters tend to discount their contest abilities because of
> > bad
> > > behavior?  Also yes.
> > >
> > > Which leads me to what set this off - watching K1TO's Contest
> > Hall of
> > > Fame induction at Dayton this past year.  It struck me that no
> > matter
> > > how good of an operator you are, no matter what you have
> > achieved in
> > > the hobby, if anyone has managed to piss people off along the
> > way it's
> > > unlikely they will receive the peer recognition that may be
> > deserved.
> > > Watching the procession of people on and off the dias talking
> > about
> > > having known 'TO since they were teenagers, all the help he had
> > given
> > > to others in the hobby in the NE and Florida, getting K1ZA
> > licensed,
> > > and the string of contest scores and WRTC wins - the contest
> > scores and
> > > WRTC wins alone are not going to get peer recognition for a
> > lifetime
> > > honor like the Contest Hall of Fame.
> > >
> > > Rich, now that you've won High Power repeatedly from Puerto
> > Rico,
> > > wouldn't it be time to move on to another challenge?  (Warning -
> > > Blowing Own Horn Follows):  After winning the QRP category in SS
> > CW for
> > > the second time in a row in '99, I started thinking about doing
> > > something different.  Low Power?  Multi-op?  But then I wanted
> > to see
> > > if I could do it a third time, and then a fourth - and I really
> > didn't
> > > even want to bother either the third or fourth time.  I did it
> > anyway,
> > > but finally after '01 said, OK, enough already.
> > >
> > > Rich, if you're returning to Puerto Rico for SS in 2004, why not
> > go low
> > > power or QRP and try to win both modes in one of those
> > categories?
> > > I doubt seriously that the QRP category has any special
> > advantages from
> > > the Caribbean for SS.
> > >
> > > Scott W4PA
> > >
> > > =====
> > > "Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time." --
> > > Bertrand Russell
> > >
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> >
> >                                      Alan Zack
> >                      Amateur Radio Station K7ACZ
> >                          Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
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-- 
__________________________________________________________________________      
                 
                                     Alan Zack
                     Amateur Radio Station K7ACZ
                         Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
          Quality Engineer, The Boeing Company, Retired
  Aviation Chief Warrant Officer, U.S. Coast Guard, Retired
        U.S. Coast Guard, Always Ready, Always There
Every hour, Every day, Around the Clock and Around the World
                               SEMPER PARATUS
---------------------------------------------------------------
    The world's top contesters battle it out in Finland!
THE OFFICIAL FILM of WRTC 2002 now on professional DVD and VHS!
       http://home1.pacific.net.sg/~jamesb/
---------------------------------------------------------------

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