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Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL CW DX, J6DX Pwr??

To: "Alan C. Zack" <k7acz@cox.net>, <jukka.klemola@nokia.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL CW DX, J6DX Pwr??
From: "Steve Baron - KB3MM" <SteveBaron@StarLinX.com>
Reply-to: Steve Baron - KB3MM <SteveBaron@StarLinX.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 14:40:30 -0000
List-post: <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
Would think that if you mis-logged what the DX station sent, the DX station
would not be penalized but you would.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan C. Zack" <k7acz@cox.net>
To: <jukka.klemola@nokia.com>
Cc: <k6ceo@arrl.net>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 09:28
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL CW DX, J6DX Pwr??


> Jukka OH6LI,
> Sorry if my question offended you.  I did not present as a means of
> cheating.
> With a VERY low score I am in no contention for any kind of reward.  I
> entered mainly to increase my DX count on 80 and 160 mtrs and if I can
> give NV to some DX stations so much the better.  I just wanted to be
> sure my 3 contacts with J6DX counted for THEM if I busted their
> power.  Had I asked what was so and so's full call because I couldn't
> copy it during the contest then that would be a different story.  What
> if I asked you someone sent me QRZ?, what does that mean, or they sent
> QSO B4, what does that mean, or they sent STATE?, what does that
> mean?  It was meant to be a procedures question, not a fill in the
> holes question.  I was simply asking if there was a different way of
> sending one's power that I was not aware of.
> Not sure if they would have lost the Q's or not but I do know when I
> was DX in DU land for the ARRL 10 meter I did lose Q's for not having
> the power recorded correctly.
> At the pace of the Q's during the contest you may not have a chance to
> ask for a repeat.  Most of the big guns were already CQ'ing again when
> I sent the V in NV.  Besides, I don't believe in asking for repeats of
> a call, zone, power, etc.  You should LISTEN and LISTEN until you are
> sure of what you are hearing BEFORE you make your call.  What I heard
> was two N's run together to sound like a C or a C.  Most stations were
> using TT for zero zero.  The J6DX guys were doing something different
> whether it was two N's run together to sound like a C to mean 99 watts
> or whatever.
> P.S.  I didn't use PACKET here either.
>
> jukka.klemola@nokia.com wrote:
> >
> > Always, if a QSO is unsure, ask the guy on the to repeat
> > the exchange.
> > If still no QSO, then no QSO in the log.
> >
> > This is simple to me.
> >
> > Contest rules say when the contest ends .. it ended
> > before this email was sent.
> > Also, rules state where the QSOs are to be held, that
> > is on the radio.
> > Not on the net.
> >
> > ARRL DX CW is a CW contest, it is not a packet contest either...
> >
> > 73,
> > Jukka OH6LI
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
> > > [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of ext
> > > Alan C. Zack
> > > Sent: 23 February, 2004 05:05
> > > To: CQ-Contest
> > > Cc: Cliff K6CEO
> > > Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL CW DX, J6DX Pwr??
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I wonder if someone who correctly copied J6DX's power could pass it on
> > > to me.  What I heard was 5NNCC but don't know what the CC means.  Not
> > > just my ears, another op in CA told me via email that's what he was
> > > hearing also.  Don't know if their keyer was chopping up something or
> > > if it's a new (to me) code.
> > > I didn't make enough Q's or points to think about an award, I just
> > > want to be sure they don't get a busted contact on my account if I
> > > don't log the correct power.
> > > TIA & 73
> > > --
>
> -- 
> __________________________________________________________________________
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>                      Amateur Radio Station K7ACZ
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