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Re: [CQ-Contest] World Records and Verticals

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] World Records and Verticals
From: "John WA2GO" <xnewyorka@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 19:35:23 -0500
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I'm confused - is the debate whether verticals or yagis makes you a better operator in the contest, or is the debate whether verticals or yagis give you stronger transmitted and received signal strength, which then (assumably) leads to a higher score? Because if the debate is about which type of antenna actually gives better on-the-air performance, I would think that a controlled set of V vs. Y measurements could more easily be taken without the added distraction of a contest.

A silly response for a silly debate... the station with the winning combination of operators and equipment is going to win, whatever that turns out to be on that particular weekend. Period. Run the same contest with the same competitors at the same stations but on a different weekend, and you might get a different result, because the propagation gods and goddesses might be in a different mood. And that is not an experimental variable you can measure too easily, let alone control for. For example, "verticals will win when EU is coming in at 4-6 degrees on 20 meters, but yagis will win when EU is coming in at 13-17 degrees...." etc.

Again, the bottom line: the station with the winning combination of operators and equipment is going to win. It's a game, and you can stack the odds (no pun intended), but you still can't predict the outcome with certainty!

73,

WA2GO


From: K3BU@aol.com
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] World Records and Verticals
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 17:02:13 EST

In a message dated 1/4/2005 10:28:45 AM Eastern Standard Time,
rustyhill@earthlink.net writes:
>>Hey Yuri, you know what might be fun? How about a stack of Yagis on some
reasonable sized band, such as 15, 20, or 40, used in a contest, alongside
an appropriately scaled set of phased verticals in essentially the same
location, operated by multi-ops going at it full bore. Let 'em go head to
head. It would be interesting to compare logs afterwards.


Rusty<<


First you would need to "calibrate" the operators, give them the same setup and see if they come up with the same score :-)

Yuri


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