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To: "CQ-Contest@contesting. com" <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
From: "Jim Neiger" <n6tj@sbcglobal.net>
Reply-to: Jim Neiger <n6tj@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 21:16:17 -0800
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Obviously the topic of "how frequent should we ID" is one of great interest, 
and its been fun reading and contemplating everyone's opinions.

And that my skills, or lack thereof, would sometimes be mentioned is at least 
interesting for me, and for those who think I've maybe "done it right" 
sometimes in my 50 years of contesting - thank you.

But believe me, I'm strictly an AMATEUR.  I kind of adopted the use your call 
at the end of a QSO from one of our best, Katashi Nose KH6IJ.  As I started 
contesting from W 7 land in the mid-1950's, Nose's style was one we all 
marveled to hear.

So when I first started contesting from DX in 1967, it made sense to try and 
sound like Nose.  Fat chance, but what a standard to try and emulate, huh?

What I call the Nose Rule:  just sending your call says three things: (1) I QSL 
your report, (2) I am XXXXX, and (3) QRZ.  A lot said, in very short order.  
How efficient is that??

Keep in mind, that for most of us, pre-1970 there were NO MEMORY KEYERS, NO 
COMPUTERS, and everything was sent long hand.

Now, certain principles still apply, I believe, and for those who want to 
continue reading, follows my Secrets of Contesting, Ch. 15.  I take no 
exclusivity on any of this; many will perhaps disagree, but that's OK too.

1...  A major secret to life (and contesting) is to AVOID THE EXTREMES.  Simply 
stated, there's no one size that fits all.  And for most of us lying well 
within the extremities, whatever we feel comfortable doing, is probably the 
right thing.  Sign your call whenever you wish; you won't please everybody 
anyway, so what the heck................

2.  How can anyone take exception with the way Jose CT1BOH is doing it?  
Numbers that truly boggle the mind.
Yes, sometimes I beat Jose - usually now he beats me.  His analysis, for the 
most part, is right on, I believe.  Incidently when Jose started contesting in 
the late 80's, he always told me I IDed too often, and he could've generated 
bigger scores than I from D44BC.  Maybe he was right; I certainly have learned 
from him.

3.  Whereas I have a 'reputation' of signing after every QSO; I must confess I 
don't always today.  Sorry.

4.  Obviously the appeal to sign your call every Q is greatly diminished, as 
VR2BG suggested, if your call is a basket case.   I've been very fortunate to 
have the ZD8Z call since 1968, and I suppose it is easily recognized.  Each 
character ends with 2 dits, and a few hundred thousand QSO's later - well I'm 
sometimes astonished when it ends up BUSTED on packet.  Oh well.  Now if my 
call was XQ9ABY, I doubt that this EXTREME call would motivate me to send it 
after every Q.

5.  As N6AA and others have observed, the frequency that you sign is pretty 
well dictated by the pileup.  And I have noticed that when I sign every Q, my 
pileup definitely grows, leading me to believe that when I don't sign, many are 
patiently waiting for the call.  Truly interesting dynamics.

6.  For me, I have evolved into (1) signing after every QSO when the pileup is 
not robust, and (2) signing after every two to three Q's when the pileup is big 
and the rates are good.  At a minimum, one should never go longer than a minute 
without IDing, in my opinion

7.  The gentleman that I am trying to learn from is my good friend Al  4L5A.  
And with his D4B call, what a GOLD STANDARD he is setting for the rest of us.  
Can you imagine eleven straight 200+ hours this past CQ WW CW?  With best hours 
exceeding 260 Q's?  Not even CT1BOH has done that!

Anyway, enough of this.  Strive to feel comfortable in what you're doing.  
Realize that others might be listening and set a good standard for 
non-contesters and beginners.  Do what Don Wallace W6AM used to call "friendly 
CQing".  Play the game fair.  Cheaters know who they are, and they're not the 
only ones who know............

Winning is important, but it's not everything.  As Ville OH2MM shared with me 
in Brazil two years ago, after awhile, only YOU remember your No. 1's.

And if any of us strive to be remembered one-half as fondly as KH6IJ, then 
that's a nice legacy with which to depart.

Very 73

Jim Neiger  N6TJ  ZD8Z (this March)  TO4A (last November -                 fun 
call, but what's your country?)  ZF2TJ  (next 
                 month - ARRL DX CW, and NO the opr is not 

'still crazy after all these years'
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