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Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL says no to opening logs...

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL says no to opening logs...
From: "Robert Naumann" <w5ov@w5ov.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 18:36:24 -0500
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I haven't noticed any mean-spirited postings on this subject - yet.

I emailed with N7NG about this last night, and he is now on his way, or is
in Japan, so I don't think we'll get a response from him too soon.

The entire problem is that QSL Managers routinely will confirm contacts that
are not confirmed in the log because of the one-off busted call problem.

This rule is intended to keep that situation as much in control as possible.

I totally disagree with the new rule and instead I think that QSL managers
should be prohibited from confirming QSOs that are not in the log correctly.


Who knows what kind of apre-DXpedition shenanigans are going on?

Total disclosure is the only way for the DXCC program to have any
credibility.

73,

Bob W5OV
DXCC 331/321


-----Original Message-----
From: N7MAL [mailto:N7MAL@CITLINK.NET] 
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 5:11 PM
To: k1ttt@arrl.net; 'CQ-Contest'
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL says no to opening logs...

With all due respect David, and I mean that sincerely, What turnip truck did

you fall off of? I've been at this @50 years and I've seen whiners 
everywhere pleading their case for a busted call and in the majority of 
times walk away with the card. (at Dayton, at The Bash, Visalia, etc etc). 
If you have a call close enough to something posted you most likely will 
pull it off.
I think the recent posting, on the web, today, for KH8SI is all the info 
that needs to be posted publicly. Everything after that must come from your 
log.
Wayne, N7NG, got it right. In order for an award, or contest certificate, to

have any meaning/prestige it must have integrity. By the way this rule is to

protect the overwhelming majority of honest guys from a few bad apples.

With regard to some of the mean-spirited postings, on this subject, an old 
English saying might apply: "Me thinkest thou protesteth to much"



N7MAL
BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
http://www.ctaz.com/~suzyq/N7mal.htm
http://geocities.com/n7mal/
Don't worry about the world coming to an end today.
It's already tomorrow in Australia

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Robbins K1TTT
  To: 'CQ-Contest'
  Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 20:38
  Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL says no to opening logs...


  >
  > If ALL the QSO info is available via internet or whatever, someone could
  > claim a busted call and get a card.  Or someone with a legitimate busted
  > call could end up losing the QSO because the owner of the busted call 
got
  > it.

  STOP RIGHT THERE!  How do you claim a 'busted call' to get a card??  If 
your
  call isn't in their log, how do you get a card???


  David Robbins K1TTT
  e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
  web: http://www.k1ttt.net
  AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net

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