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Re: [CQ-Contest] why non-contesters hate us

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] why non-contesters hate us
From: "Gordon LaPoint" <n1mgo@comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 11:14:05 -0400
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This is a prime example!   I saw several examples of this on Saturday.  I would
be working a station, and a BIG GUN contester starts calling CQ right on top of
me, I work him so I know he can hear me, but he ignored the statements that the
frequency is in use by me.  I'm not naming names this time, next time I will.   

<VENTING>I had it reinforced why I don't normally do Phone contests, they are 
the rudest bunch on the air I have seen, and this weekend was one of the worst 
examples of bad operating I have seen in a long time.  I'm going back to CW and
RTTY contesting as my primary mode of operation.  I'm sorry to say that I'm an 
amateur radio operator when I see such bad examples of operation.  Some of the 
big guns were also the most overdriven splattering signals on the air.   Please 
*** CLEAN UP YOUR ACT ***.  If you don't know who you are more of us "little 
pistols" can surely supply callsigns.</VENTING OFF>

I run a small station; 500 Watts max to Dipoles in the trees at 45 feet and an 
A3S on the roof at 25 feet AGL.

Gordon - N1MGO

On 27 Oct 2007 at 13:50, doug smith wrote:

> OK, so I finally got enough laundry done to sit down & try CQing for a
> few minutes in the CQ WW SSB.  Running 500 watts to a 7-el tribander
> at 20m, I'm not the loudest signal on the band but I'm not a QRP
> lightweight either.
> 21.405 sounds open.  I ask (twice) whether it's in use.  No response.
> Switch to CW, send a dit-stream to double-check the tuning on the amp
> - no response.  Ask yet again (on SSB) whether the frequency is in
> use.  No response.
> Start calling CQ.  Get a few answers, including Europeans.  Not much
> rate, but it's something.  Until, about ten minutes later:
> Right out of the clear blue sky.  Didn't ask whether there was anyone
> there, didn't listen before transmitting, just suddenly appeared &
> decided 21.405 was their private property.  Didn't go away when it
> became obvious there was another station there.  [0]
> We're darned lucky the station they stomped on was another contester.
> If it had been a schedule, ragchew, or net (however useless) on
> 21.405, this behavior would have generated at least two
> contest-haters, ready to lobby their local IARU society to ban our
> pursuit.  I wonder how many of the anti-contest letters that regularly
> appear in QST and RadComm were provoked by similar behavior?
> There have been similar complaints posted here before, but I guess
> they finally caught me on a day when I was sleep-deprived enough to
> name names.  OE2S is not the *only* guilty party (and there are plenty
> here in the States - it's not just a European thing by any means) but
> they *are* a guilty party.
> This kind of crap HAS GOT TO STOP.  It's going to get us exiled to
> woefully inadequate slivers of the bands.  If I'd been recording the
> contest, a recording *would* be on the way to the Contest Committee.
> Are we going to have to get a few folks DQd, or are we just going to
> go ahead & provoke the non-contesters into driving us out of business?
> [0] I know damned well they could hear me.  I was (until they showed
> up) working stations in bordering countries - and had worked OE2S
> themselves just about an hour earlier.  And, when I refused to simply
> disappear when they started CQing, at one point they pretended (or
> thought) I answered their CQ - and got my call 100% right.  This kind
> of thing can - and does - happen by mistake when QRM/QSB conditions
> are poor.  What happened here today **was no mistake**.
> ==
> Doug Smith W9WI
> Pleasant View, TN  EM66
> http://www.w9wi.com
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