Yannick XV4Y is getting to the nub of this topic. Maybe we need a
grid/cross reference of the ID requirements based on either completing a
contact, or based on time interval, of ALL of the relevant governing bodies
so we can determine a minimum level of ID that would REQUIRE ANYYONE to
maintain, as *NO LICENSING AUTHORITY allows anything LESS.* If a given
contest has NO WORDING on the need for ID, we shouldn't gripe unless the
station in question falls below that standard, or below the standard for
their governing body (Oh nuts, WE DON'T KNOW WHO THAT IS YET WHILE
LISTENING FOR 15 MINUTES AND STILL NO ID...).
Ironically, I have personally had an instance where I was running for over
an hour, and signing after EACH contact; and yet, I QRZ just ONCE without
my callsign and was immediately given a "watchercall?" in response <eyes roll>.
Another thought on this topic: I recall reading somewhere (I think it was
here on CQ-Contest) a highly-respected contester opined that if one doesn't
know enough about ID-ing a little less often than EVERY QSO, one should
just ID on EVERY QSO. Unfortunately, that can be read/taken as a put-down,
and some might react to it by arrogantly going overboard and only ID-ing
when asked. There are several factors at work feeding into this problem,
and it doesn't all stem from one single direction. I wasn't able to find
the one I am thinking of in the archives, but I did find this item, which
covers a LOT of both sides of the issue.
http://lists.contesting.com/_cq-contest/2005-01/msg00215.html
I emailed Paul EI5DI on this thread about ID a earlier:
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>My questions to Paul: 7/31/2012 9:40 AM
Hello Geoffrey,
> Thanks for your observation on the ID problem. Don't most contests make
> a reference to operating within the rules of their license?
Yes, and No. Some of the major contests, such as CQ WPX,
make no such reference. I expect there are others, but
I haven't checked.
>>My response: Wow, if a major contest isn't requiring folks to respect
their own regulating body's rules, what kind of message are they sending to
everyone by not requiring that?
> If so, what is the requirement for the station to ID every so often?
I don't know but, assuming there is such a requirement,
who is going to enforce it and how will they do it?
>> My response to Paul: The contest organizer could recategorize the
obvious offenders as checklogs. It isn't hard to tell when 10 contacts in a
row are all busted exactly the same way due to a failure to properly ID.
The contest is the venue for the misconduct, so the sponsor ought to do
something to encourage misbehaving operators to reconsider their
undesirable habits. I make a point of correcting my call when a running
station busts it; they in turn owe it to those listening them to ID
frequently enough.
> I'm not well versed in the rules of numerous countries' regulations on
> this, but I think you might know a good deal about it. Could you share
> this with the reflector?
Yes, I will - as soon as I see your message there.
73,
Paul EI5DI
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So, what say, Paul? Is there such a reference anywhere already? Perhaps an
ITU or IARU guideline? Here in the US, I believe each NEW contact requires
an ID, and in "ragchew" or other pedestrian modes, at least every 10
minutes. This is one of the things I LOVE about the Nov. Sweepstakes
contest; the CALLSIGN is a REQUIRED part of the exchange.
FCC online reference; Paragraph A:
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-1998-title47-vol5/xml/CFR-1998-title47-vol5-sec97-119.xml
Perhaps a few others from various DX countries could shed more light on
their respective ID requirements, especially if there is an online
reference to their governing bodies' regulations on ID requirements...
-- KA1IOR
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