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Re: [CQ-Contest] The REAL way remotes are used

To: Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw@verizon.net>, <hs0zcw@gmail.com>, George via CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] The REAL way remotes are used
From: Kelly Taylor <ve4xt@mymts.net>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 10:46:00 -0600
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Ron, Ron, Ron,

Don't you know by now? Never let facts get in the way of a good conspiracy
theory...

;=)

73, kelly
ve4xt


On 2/27/15 9:58 AM, "Ron Notarius W3WN" <wn3vaw@verizon.net> wrote:

> OK Charles...
>  
> That's an interesting, if highly cynical, theory.
>  
> You do have some proof that this is what was, and is, going on, isn't it?
>  
> More importantly... how many hams... strike that.  How many active &
> competitive DX'ers and/or contesters are doing this?  A thousand?  A hundred?
> A dozen?  One?
>  
> Please cite sources.  Otherwise, with all due respect, this is all theory and
> speculation.
>  
> Or to put it another way, it is certainly possible, and even probable, that
> this is going on to some degree.  Or will soon.  But before we break out the
> pitch forks, torches, tar & feathers, can we actually have some idea of what
> really is going on?
>  
> 73, ron w3wn
> 
> On 02/27/15, Charles Harpole wrote:
> 
> -Early on, "x" years ago, stations could tap into remote receivers all
> around the world to hear better in specific geographic areas.
> Transmissions were loud enough but clear hearing was the problem-- fixed by
> using remote tune-able receivers. Practice was secret.
> 
> -Lately, both transmit and receive were made remote. This has the obvious
> benefit of being closer, louder, hearing better, etc., especially if
> switching around to more than one remote station. You want Europe clear,
> dial up a station that produces that; you want VK, dial up a different
> station that wks gud into VK. Keep secret that you are using your call
> sign in places outside of your call sign entity/nation.
> 
> -Now, RemoteHamRadio company takes away the secret and provides some
> control over practice described just above.
> 
> -Immediately, as cited by Glenn, W0GJ, on K1N, somehow-- probably via a
> remote station that will be loud to K1N--a loud call gets the K1N op's
> attention, but then when the actual contact is made, the transmitted signal
> is weaker. The suggestion is that a remote station is used to get the
> partial or whole call sign acknowledged and then the actual contact goes on
> from a much less effective station location. This must be secret, too?
> 
> Remotes have overturned old fashioned ham radio to the point, like the
> Internet, where anyone can appear to be anywhere with no trace of the
> facts. Seems national borders are obsolete in the new ham radio.


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