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Re: [CQ-Contest] Let's eliminate "QSO B4"

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Let's eliminate "QSO B4"
From: Dave Hawes <dave.n3rd@verizon.net>
Reply-to: n3rd@arrl.net
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 15:58:18 -0500
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I had a guy call me on 15m in the CQ WW CW where he had programmed into his
"Report" button on his computer:

     {MyCall} {MyCall} PLS COPY 59914 59914 TU ES 73 DE {HisCall} {HisCall}
SK

This was a first, and hopefully the last time for this to happen to me.
Sheesh!

73 - Dave N3RD

On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 1:47 PM, ve4xt@mymts.net <ve4xt@mymts.net> wrote:

> I suggest we'll be successful eliminating QSO B4 about the same time we
> get rid of "please copy"...
>
> 73, Kelly
> ve4xt
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Dec 8, 2015, at 10:07 AM, Roberts, Will <Will.Roberts@duke-energy.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > For someone you think you have worked before... Unless it is SS with its
> very long exchange...JUST WORK THEM AGAIN!!
> >
> > PLEASE follow John's advice below. I had this happen to me in the ARRL
> 160 this past weekend. I had just gotten on the air and was working my 3rd
> contact, a well-known W8. He
> > Send "QSO B4". I replied NO. He then took the time to say "You got my
> call wrong" instead of just sending 5NN MI ! As it turns out, I expect he
> was the one who got MY call wrong as K4NC
> > was also active in the contest. It would have saved him a lot of time to
> have just worked me and moved on. If he had refused to work me and I had
> moved on, that first contact as well as
> > a missed QSO with me would have been a NIL.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Will AA4NC
> >
> >
> >
> > Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 06:31:58 -0500
> >
> > From: "john@kk9a.com<mailto:john@kk9a.com>" <john@kk9a.com<mailto:
> john@kk9a.com>>
> >
> > To: cq-contest@contesting.com<mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
> >
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Is working the QSO B4 good on long term for
> >
> >        us ?
> >
> > Message-ID: <43934f80bc72cded6f632035a0bfd94d.squirrel@www11.qth.com
> <43934f80bc72cded6f632035a0bfd94d.squirrel@www11.qth.com">mailto:43934f80bc72cded6f632035a0bfd94d.squirrel@www11.qth.com>>
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
> >
> >
> >
> > That is unsportsmanlike conduct. Lets say we work early in the contest
> and I log you incorrectly as VA2EA,  Later I call VA2EW and you won't work
> me.
> >
> > You get credit for the previous contact and I don't. It would have been
> just as easy to give me a report the second time. QSO B4 is not one of my
> macros.
> >
> >
> >
> > John KK9A
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To:     cq-contest@contesting.com<mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
> >
> > Subject:        [CQ-Contest] Is working the QSO B4 good on long term for
> us ?
> >
> > From:   VE2TZT <ve2tzt@arrl.net<mailto:ve2tzt@arrl.net>>
> >
> > Date:   Mon, 07 Dec 2015 20:27:56 -0500
> >
> > List-post:      <cq-contest@contesting.com"<mailto:
> cq-contest@contesting.com%22>>mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > It is after that bad experience that I have decided to systematically
> refuse the QSO's B4.
> >
> >
> >
> > After all, if my callsign is busted in the other guy log, I do not lose
> the points but he lose the points and if he answers ''NO'' when I send QSO
> >
> > B4 then I will work him without discussion.
> >
> >
> >
> > Interested by your opinion on that point.
> >
> >
> >
> > Gilles VA2EW
> >
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