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Re: [CQ-Contest] "D1WW"

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] "D1WW"
From: W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 10:59:06 -0600
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What Rudy said.

After every contest we (cluster owners) get hit with people complaining about all the busted calls. (SSB, CW and RTTY) AD1C and others maintain huge lists that we use to identify calls and spot them in the right country, zone, county, etc. All the TO calls come to mind.

You do not want to open up the flood gates and allow the clusters to spot everything. It would be a mess.

Skimmers work on matching up what it thinks it heard with what should or could be real callsigns.

I guess the burden shifts to those that maintain these lists to determine what to do with these entities.

RBN is just one piece of the puzzle for CW and RTTY which tie in and back and forth between all the other participating clusters around the world. These are all independent sources of information that get filtered along the way. We as hams have asked them all to get better at filtering out the bad spots.

It is not one person or RBN that determines what gets sent down over the spotting networks. All the clusters do not necessarily play nice together either.

It is not the end of the world if some of these entities are not spotted. I sure read many posts where people should be tuning around their radios on their own. Here is your chance.

Each contest has their own rules. It should be pretty clear how D1WW or others like this will be handled.

W0MU


On 9/14/2016 8:57 AM, Rudy Bakalov via CQ-Contest wrote:
The issue at hand is technical, not political and any effort to turn it into a 
political debate is misdirected and counterproductive.
The #1 complaint about RBN is busted calls. In order for CW/RTTY Skimmer and RBN to 
improve the accuracy of decoded callsigns, the software uses a "language" that 
describes the patter of valid callssigns. Obviously the source of such patterns comes 
from IARU which in turn does not recognize D1. Chances are N1MM and other ham software 
that looks for valid callsign patterns will label D1 as invalid as well unless someone 
has already corrected it or the callsign is in the check partial database.

Rudy N2WQ
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  Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 4:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] "D1WW"
My comment “Let him play” is not in jest. Each of us, individually, is responsible to our licensing authority for proper and legal operation of our radio station. (including D1WW) No ham (nor their software) is responsible to adjudicate the proper and legal operation of any other stations. We have no diplomatic standing. (including K0HB or RBN) The RBN has no regulatory standing as an “authority”. It is simply a slick tool to alert us to stations heard. I believe that it should simply “report what was sent”, and let the users as individuals independently act on that information. See 1) and 2). 73, de Hans, KØHB
"Just a boy and his radio"™

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