What if?
- Real-time scoring started with a bunch of small, regional contests to
prove the concept.
- Real-time scoring, after validating a contact, submitted it to LOTW,
immediately? Would that not immediately increase the activity among DXers
and Non-contesters?
Amazing how everyone immediately gravitates toward this happening in CQWW!
They sky is not falling, and I'm sure it would be proven out before
happening in any major event.
Yes, sure, lots of technical details to work out, but very doable in
today's connected world... even with satellite or very-limited-bandwidth
connections.
73,
Gerry W1VE
On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Trent Sampson <vk4ts@outlook.com> wrote:
> REAL TIME SCORING and QUICK Submissions are both in conflict too the
> system as we know it.
>
>
> How various people will react is difficult to establish. But to be sure
> for every action there will be a reaction.
>
>
>
>
> Pareto described the population effect as the 80 20 rule -
>
>
> In contesting I think it is more like the 90/10 rule -
>
>
> Eg of the 60,000 callsigns in the CQWW only 10% are sort of serious and of
> that 10% again 90/10 have a hope of winning
>
>
> 60,000 Calls in the various logs equals around 6000 logs entered and
> around 600 who gain a certificate -of these only 10% are in the running for
> trophies or 60 stations
>
>
> So the suggestion is to cater for 1% of the active stations at the
> detriment of the vast majority who make up the activities of a contest.
>
>
> We need to look at what is a contest and work out from there -
>
>
> Undeniably the CQWW is the most popular; why ? Simple rules , short
> exchange and lots of DX activity.
>
>
> But what attracts the 60,000 ? Answer that question and you will find the
> way forward for the future of contests - Making the path more difficult is
> not the answer.
>
>
> You must think from a NON CONTESTER perceptive - Not as a hard core
> contester - And the only way to find out is not to ask the top 100 but to
> ask the bottom 54,000 that make up the logs every year almost without fail.
>
>
> Have fun in the contest.
>
> Trent
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> ________________________________
> From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com> on behalf of Ron
> Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw@verizon.net>
> Sent: 14 November 2016 08:32
> To: 'Igor Sokolov'; cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Real Time Scoring and Quick Submissions
>
> But how many of the casual ops would know in advance that they had to sign
> up for real-time scoring to get this "additional strong motivation" ?
>
> And how many of the "major awards" sponsors would be willing to accept the
> RTS server data?
>
> Sorry Igor. Not buying it.
>
> 73, ron w3wn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> Igor Sokolov
> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 11:48 AM
> To: RT Clay; cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Real Time Scoring and Quick Submissions
>
> There are many casual ops in contests who hunt for a new
> zone/country/island. If instant confirmation by the server would be counted
> as valid for major awards, this in fact could be additional strong
> motivation for casual ops to join.
>
>
> 73, Igor UA9CDC
>
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> ??????????: 12 ?????? 2016 ?. 0:39
> ????: Re: [CQ-Contest] Real Time Scoring and Quick Submissions
>
>
> > Requiring real-time scoring would kill nearly all participation by casual
> > ops in contests. That would be very bad for encouraging new contesters.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Tor
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