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Re: [CQ-Contest] 3V8SS disqualified from WW SSB and WRTC

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 3V8SS disqualified from WW SSB and WRTC
From: Joe <nss@mwt.net>
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 20:13:17 -0600
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or the guy that spoofs a compeditors IP and then spot him to make him get a DQ UG here we go again.

Joe WB9SBD
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On 2/25/2017 7:04 PM, Joe wrote:
I also like this self spotting.

BUT..... and there always is a BUT isn't there? I like the three QSO's rule, BUT. there needs to also be a max per hour?

Then gain here we are, back to the same problem, UG!

I can just see someone spotting themself after every q.

Joe WB9SBD
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On 2/24/2017 4:30 PM, Stan Stockton wrote:
Yes.  This is what I wrote about a year and a half ago:

2015-10-28 4:06 GMT+01:00 Stan Stockton <wa5rtg@gmail.com>:
There should be a rule allowing the software to automatically submit a self spot after you have logged perhaps three QSOs on the same frequency - same rule for everyone. After all, when you call CQ on CW you are, in effect, self spotting. There is a huge advantage in being spotted and, on SSB, there is a huge difference in the number of spots for different stations giving advantage to those who are spotted frequently and quickly after a frequency change. 73... Stan, K5GO


On Feb 24, 2017, at 9:49 AM, Steve London <n2icarrl@gmail.com> wrote:

On CW, we already have the equivalent of self spotting, thanks to CW Skimmer and the RBN. It's virtually impossible to NOT be spotted. CW Skimmer/RBN is the great equalizer - you no longer have to depend on a network of friends to spot you.

We wouldn't be having this discussion if there was a SSB Skimmer. Right now, we have a system where "those with the right friends" have an advantage. Why not simply allow self spotting on SSB ?

73,
Steve, N2IC

On 02/22/2017 12:22 PM, Bob Henderson wrote:
Having myself met with unfair and unjustified treatment at the hands of RDXC adjudicators I can empathise with those claiming unfair treatment in
adjudication.  However in this case having looked at the information
supplied and done a little further digging, I am unsure my empathy is
justified.

3V8SS it seems acknowledges cheer-leading by his fellow Tunisians KG5OUE and F4HJD but claims not to have encouraged it. I am inclined to believe him, given some of my own friends have spotted me during contests and I
have NEVER, that is NOT EVER, asked anyone to do so.

That said, HB9EOU appears to be rather more than a random contact with
Switzerland. Last year HB9EOU operated in the IOTA contest from 3V8SM on Djerba Island AF-083 along with F4HJD. Ash (3V8SS) + F4HJD + 3V8CB had
activated 3V8SM from Djerba Island a couple of months earlier.

The recording of the contact with HB9EOU seems odd, though the events not entirely inexplicable but small circles in which the same calls crop up
repetitively raise questions.  Perhaps it's all an extraordinary
coincidence but there is enough doubt for me to wonder whether my empathy
might have been misplaced.

Bob, 5B4AGN






Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 09:48:33 -0600
From: "Doug Renwick" <ve5ra@sasktel.net>
To: "'Ashraf Chaabane'" <ash.kf5eyy@gmail.com>, "'cq-contest'"
         <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] R: Re: R: 3V8SS disqualified from WW SSB and
         WRTC
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After reading your post and based on your response to the committee, I would conclude that Bob, W5OV; Doug, KR2Q; Scott, W4PA are nitpickers with an
agenda.
If anything valid is further introduced to support the committee's decision, then I would revise my opinion. As it stands, I believe you were unfairly
DQd.
Doug

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Ashraf Chaabane
Sent: February-22-17 7:34 AM
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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] R: Re: R: 3V8SS disqualified from WW SSB and WRTC

Mike, Ria and all,

I put online the CC accusations (their native emails) and my responses:

http://www.kf5eyy.info/3V8SS_WWSSB16_DQ.htm

I think that allows everyone to read from both sides. Now it's up to you to
comment!

73
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Ash ~ 3V8SS/KF5EYY
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Skype: kf5eyy
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