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Re: [CQ-Contest] Ea8's banned from RBN? Hmmm

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ea8's banned from RBN? Hmmm
From: W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2017 07:24:43 -0700
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I doesn't matter LPL is not the driving force for spots. The entire cluster system is. His system does nothing but filter spots from around the globe and respot them.

I don't worry too much about things outside my control.


On 2/28/2017 7:52 AM, Juan Hidalgo EA8RM wrote:
Hello Mike:


What happens if LPL system spot all NA stations and not V31MU when you're 
there???
Will be you happy with that ?

Or imagine that the system don't spot PR stations (common dxcc) and just spot 
you every 10 min (uncommon dxcc( , both in NA. it's that's fair ?

That what I mean Mike

It looks CQoIP !!

73 de EA8RM

Enviado desde mi iPhone

El 28 feb 2017, a las 14:03, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com> escribió:

LPL has created a tool that does something different.  It is what it is.  When 
that system first came about many Cluster owners decided to ignore those spots 
until the system was refined better.  EA8's are spotted just fine.  LPL does 
not sponsor and run contests.  It is just one tool that appears to be created 
for DXers.

There is nothing stopping someone else from creating a tool that does something 
else is there?

The LPL system is dumped into the regular cluster system so what exactly is the 
problem?  There is no secret gateway to LPL spots that only certain contesters 
use etc.  Smart folks will connect to many different clusters to make sure they 
get the spot as soon as possible to avoid packet pileups.

There are plenty of tools out there to be used.  Pick the ones that work for 
you.  Not being spotting on LPL's system is a non issue.

W0MU


On 2/28/2017 7:07 AM, Eric M. Guzman, P.E. wrote:
Mike, please allow me to jump in.

I think Juan RM is not referring in general to RBN network. It looks like W3LPL (at least) has some 
kind of RBN to "Normal Cluster" gateway in which RBN spots that meets certain criteria, 
are forwarded to "Normal Clusters". Apparently the criteria is rareness.

So Juan point is, during a contest, he is competing with another AF station. He 
finds unfair that W3LPL keeps forwarding his rare AF competitor RBN spots to 
normal clusters while not forwarding his spotd because he is not rare enough.

I think Juan has a valid point if it is tbe way he describes.

73 Eric G. NP3A


On February 28, 2017 2:19:51 AM "Mike Smith VE9AA" <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

N1EN says".Keep in mind EA8's aren't banned from RBN.."



EA8RM says (in part)". The EA8s are banned from the system I don't know why,
but it is very easy to

check.."



 From Mike VE9AA:

Juan,



I am not sure where you got your information from, and I am not an authority
on the RBN by any means, but I find that statement quite odd indeed !

You can check this out yourself and prove that it's just not true my friend.
(I did a search myself of EA8's and see 100 CW and RTTY spots from several
EA8's just this afternoon in the past couple hours alone.



Go to some band that is open. (20m in the daytime, 40m in the evening).

Pick a clear frequency.

Use a good antenna and normal power and call CQ EA8RM TEST 4 or 5 times.
(all at the same speed)

Repeat a couple times on the same frequency just to be sure.



Go to: http://www.reversebeacon.net/srch.php

Type in EA8RM. Hit enter.

I am sure the page will be full from all over EU or NA (or both, depending
on your power, antenna, prop,e tc).



Try it.



GL !



CU in the next contest.



Mike VE9AA

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