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Re: [CQ-Contest] R: Ea8's banned from RBN? Hmmm

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] R: Ea8's banned from RBN? Hmmm
From: "Mike Smith VE9AA" <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2017 18:22:56 -0400
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I have misunderstood this thread from the beginning.  Maybe I still do.

Am I naïve, or perhaps I am just cynical? (or I am “that guy” that will mention 
the white elephant in the room)

 

Why should anyone care what spots get sent to DX Summit? Why? Why?

I’ll admit, I only go assisted in a small minority of contests and when I do, I 
never use Dx Summit. 

Why would anyone do that?  It’s so inneficient however you can presumably hide 
that you are assisted.

 

I connect to VE7CC. (or maybe K1TTT or someone else that receives RBN 
spots)…..yes, there are oodles of EA8 and everyone else there in the RBN feeds 
from CC.

As far as I know Lee/CC sends all spots, (RBN included) and his cluster is a 
fantastic tool and a benefit to all.

 

The only reason my little mind can come up with for anyone being upset (as in 
EA8RM’s case) about certain spots from the RBN not being forwarded to the DX 
Summit, is

because ASSISTED ops, not claiming assisted, use this resource.  (ie: They are 
sitting on a web page, presumably not logged in with their callsign and can 
hide from CQ, ARRL and other sponsors etc)

 

I use N1MM+ Logger, but understand other loggers are very similar in their 
function showing you mults, double mults, what band they are on etc.

 

I can only fathom (right or wrong) the reason anyone in their right mind would 
wish to watch thousands of dizzying spots streaming by is to hide the fact you 
are cheating by acting that you are not “assisted”, otherwise why would you do 
it?

 

Maybe I am way out in the left field, but MAYBE there is a white elephant in 
the room.

 

I am not accusing Juan of anything, other than he wishes more EA8 spots are 
sent to Dx summit, so ‘cheaters’ hide behind an IP address.

 

This is the strangest thing I have read on CQ-CONTEST in quite some time.

 

Mike VE9AA

 

Juan,

 

 

With all my respect, to accuse W3LPL in unfair filtering of RBN spots is the 
same as accusing some manual spotter (me for example) that he is spotting EA9 
but do not spot EA8. I spot I what I consider to be useful for my friends 
DXers, what I think would be interesting to them. If I did it automatically 
rather then manually, I would do the same as Frank in order not to pollute DX 
cluster. 

 

Regarding the influence of manual spots, let us wait what Pete N4ZR will find 
out. All the contesters that I know are sure using RBN and/or clusters that 
have RBN feed along with manual spots. 

73, Igor UA9CDC

 

 

01.03.2017 6:49, Juan Hidalgo EA8RM пишет:

 

 

Hi guys !!

 

I NEVER said that RBN banned EA8!!  i know how it works and works great.

  (someone change the discussion titled)

 

to VE9AA:

I told that few stations are SPOTTED

 

Mike, Coreen & Corey

Keswick Ridge, NB

 

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