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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] what is required of recevied audio, and whay will it show?
From: RT Clay <rt_clay@bellsouth.net>
Reply-to: RT Clay <rt_clay@bellsouth.net>
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 14:57:00 +0000 (UTC)
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Yes, even when unassisted there is no need to "turn the knob" to tune in 
stations on the second radio. There is also no need to ever tune sequentially 
(the first pass up or down a band Steve mentions) to identify signals manually. 
Sometimes I do tune with the 2nd radio knob, but with so2sdr (available since 
2010) I can just click on the signal and jump there directly. Or press the 
ctrl+arrow keys to automatically tune the second radio to the next higher or 
lower signal. 

TorN4OGW 

    On Thursday, March 9, 2017 7:30 AM, Steve London <n2icarrl@gmail.com> wrote:
 

 Thanks to modern, and allowed, unassisted technology, it's not that simple.

A competent, unassisted, operator will manually fill in the bandmap 
going up (or down) the band, filling in callsigns as they go. There is 
now software, such as NaP3 or Waterfall Bandmap, which superimpose a 
waterfall or spectrum display on the bandmap. After the operator does a 
pass up (or down) the band, each waterfall or spectrum trace will have a 
callsign associated with it. A good, unassisted, operator will keep an 
eye on the waterfall or spectrum trace, When a new trace appears, 
without a callsign associated with it, the unassisted operator can 
simply mouse-click on the trace, and send the radio to that frequency. 
No need to tune a second VFO or radio using the "big knob". Listening to 
a recording, this will be indistinguishable from a spotting-assisted 
operator.

73,
Steve, N2IC


On 03/08/2017 04:24 PM, Peter Bowyer wrote:
> It would likely show all of those things. It should be easy to spot the
> difference between assisted and unassisted operation with a full recording.
> Since the requirement is for all audio that the operator can hear, the
> process of tuning a second  VFO or second radio looking for mults whilst
> CQing on the first should be discernable.
>
> Of course there can be some confusion sometimes. One or two slightly
> doubtful quick fire mults would not arouse suspicion. But patterns become
> easy to spot.
>
> Peter G4MJS
>
> On 8 Mar 2017 11:15 p.m., "Jamie WW3S" <ww3s@zoominternet.net> wrote:
>
>> Is it required to show all the receive audio, even when tuning, etc, or
>> just the actual qso?
>>
>> will it show, for example, if a station claiming no assistance was in the
>> middle of a good run, and qsy’d 20 kc or more to work one station, a new
>> mult, and then came back on the run freq?
>>
>> would a show a station that shut down for the night one one freq, and then
>> then next morning worked three new, rare mults all on different frequencies
>> before starting a run of his own?
>>
>> would it show that he/she was on, lets say, 28.435 for one new mult, tuned
>> down 10 kc in a minute for another, and then tuned up to 28.535 for yet
>> another new one? would it show all that tuning time (even though its only a
>> minute) and would it show tuning past other stations just to get to the
>> mults?
>>
>> since I never heard any contest recordings this inquiring mind wants to
>> know.....
>>
>> 73
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