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Re: [CQ-Contest] Thoughts on DQs in CQWW

To: "'Stan Stockton'" <wa5rtg@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Thoughts on DQs in CQWW
From: "Ed Sawyer" <sawyered@earthlink.net>
Reply-to: sawyered@earthlink.net
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 11:39:19 -0400
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Stan, I agree that I don't believe that in most cases the DQ'd cheating
mattered much to the results.  But we have been shown that in at least one
case in QRP and one case in HP Unassisted, the World winning score was
toppled.

On the self spotting, its not about quantity, its about quality.  Just one
friend that spots you every time you come on a new run frequency and then an
hour later if you need a refresh is way more important than 50 or 10 friends
randomly cheering you on.

Ed  N1UR

-----Original Message-----
From: Stan Stockton [mailto:wa5rtg@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2017 9:32 AM
To: sawyered@earthlink.net
Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Thoughts on DQs in CQWW

This self spotting issue on SSB is much ado about nothing, in my opinion.
What's the difference in having 50 friends who spot you once each and five
friends who spot you 10 times each.  Who really cares?  Focusing on a
subjective determination as to whether someone got spotted by a friend too
many times in order to DQ the participant is ridiculous.  

The other thing I think is ridiculous is the notion that cheating is so
rampant.  
There has only been one time in the last forty years that it gave me concern
that I was affected.

73... Stan, K5GO

> On Apr 16, 2017, at 6:21 AM, Ed Sawyer <sawyered@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> From my research of the DQ list, I found the following for some 
> country data (just grabbed some countries and drilled down).  I 
> counted everyone participating in a multi and used their home callsign as
a national.
> 
> 
> 
> 11 - Italy (plus II9P team - typically 6 - 10 ops)
> 
> 5 - US
> 
> 5 - UK
> 
> 4 - Ukraine
> 
> 3 - France
> 
> 3 - Brazil
> 
> 3 - Switzerland
> 
> 2 - Germany
> 
> 2 - Spain
> 
> 2 - Russia
> 
> 2 - Argentina
> 
> 0 - Japan (noteworthy vs the large number of entrants)
> 
> 
> 
> Hardly a conspiracy in my opinion.  Looks like a big dragnet that 
> hopefully sends a message to everyone that is if you self-spot (or 
> work with a close friend excessively cheerleading you - whether that's 
> a real person or an
> avitar) or use assistance unclaimed - you are going to get caught and
DQ'd.
> 
> 
> 
> I believe that this information has been building over a few years.  
> Kudos to CQ WW CC for having the courage to raise the bar on fair
competition.
> 
> 
> 
> Ed  N1UR
> 
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