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Re: [CQ-Contest] Borrowing callsigns / location / awards?

To: RT Clay <rt_clay@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Borrowing callsigns / location / awards?
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2017 11:39:04 -0400
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I cannot believe how careless people are with their LoTW station locations.
I've seen lots of bad data come through over the years.

It's a simple concept and an easy system to use, but you can't fix stupid!

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 11:03 AM, RT Clay <rt_clay@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> KU1CW would have to set the location correctly when uploading to LOTW.
> You can upload to LOTW giving whatever location (state, zone, grid) you
> like. It's also a problem on VHF if you are collecting grid squares.
>
> TorN4OGW
>
>     On Friday, June 2, 2017 9:45 AM, Dave Edmonds <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>
>  HI Guys,
>
> I just worked the WPXCW and ended up with 394 Qs on 40m. I just updating my
> contacts into my master log program..
>
> Here's my problem...
>
> With WPX and many other contest, there is no exchange of location. So, I
> have no idea where the station is located.
>
> Example...
>
> I worked KU1CW in the WPX. I uploaded my log to LOTW an I received a
> confirmed qsl. Here are the details on LOTW record.
>
> *Station* *Call Sign* WN4AFP *DXCC* UNITED STATES OF AMERICA *CQ Zone* 5
> *ITU
> Zone* 8 *Grid* EM84UU *State* South Carolina (SC) *County* GREENVILLE
> *Worked
> Station* *Worked* KU1CW *DXCC* UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (291) *State*
> Kansas
> (KS) *County* JOHNSON *Date/Time* 2017-05-27 21:11:56 *Mode* CW (CW)
> *Band* 40M
> *QSL* 2017-06-02 13:42:27
> <https://lotw.arrl.org/lotwuser/qsodetail?qso=840175882>
>
> I have just confirmed a QSO via LOTW with KU1CW located in Kansas and
> Johnson county.
>
> Did I really work Alex in Johnson county Kansas?
>
> If I needed Kansas for WAS, I now have a QSL via LOTW for Kansas.
>
> After looking at 3830scores, I learn that KU1CW callsign location was in
> Virginia.
>
> So my confirmed LOTW contact with Kansas is not valid. I can obtain a WAS
> award from the ARRL without working Kansas. By the way, this station was
> 599+ on 40m during the day... doubtful it was Kansas.
>
> Bottom line... If I'm trying to work all counties or any awards how can I
> be confident that a contact is really valid for WAS and other awards.What's
> the solution?
>
> Is KU1CW responsible for informing LOTW that on May 27/28 he was really
> operating from Virginia? I don't know where he was?
>
> Anyone else experience this problem?
>
> 73s Dave WN4AFP
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