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Re: [CQ-Contest] The CQWW 160 "protect my turf" rule?

To: w1ve@yccc.org
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] The CQWW 160 "protect my turf" rule?
From: Andy Blank <andyn2nt@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 14:54:58 -0500
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Guys, I will clarify this tonight.

I have to do some research, but I will comment later.

Appreciate if everyone will stop speculating until then.
I have to finish my day job work first :)

73, Andy N2NT
Director CQ160 Contest


On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Gerry Hull <gerry@yccc.org> wrote:

> Whatever, Paul.
>
> The rule, as stated, denies a particular class remote operating, while
> allowing it in all other cases.
>
> First of all, if you are SOU, even if remote, there is no external
> anything.  The radio is the radio is the radio, it is within
> the correct operating circle.
>
> I'm not going to argue this point with you   -- it has been settled many
> times, and you are never going to change your opinion.
>
> The rule is poorly written.  If they are denying remote operators the
> ability to enter "Single Op Unlimited",
> then the rule should clearly state that.
>
> "Remote Operation is not permitted to enter Single Operator Unassisted
> operation."
>
> Funny, Paul, how you pick and choose.   In SOA, you can use a remote
> receiver which is connected via the internet, just
> not more than a certain distance away.  Still internet, though.
>
> Hmmmmm
>
>
> Anyway -- Just want a clarification on this particular rule.   Anyone?
>
> 73, Gerry
>
> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 10:58 AM, Paul O'Kane <pokane@ei5di.com> wrote:
>
> > On 29/01/2018 13:27, Gerry Hull wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > It would be much simpler to state "Remote operation is not permitted for
> >> Single operator Unassisted" category.
> >>
> >> 1. Am I reading the rule incorrectly?
> >>
> >> 2.  If I am reading it correctly, WHY such a rule?
> >>
> >
> > Well, for SOU, the use of external networks is not permitted for
> > the purpose of increasing scores.  In these circumstances, the
> > use of external networks to communicate would seem to be entirely
> > inappropriate.
> >
> > For anyone suggesting that remote operators do not communicate
> > over external networks, consider how many contacts you would have
> > without them.
> >
> > Almost all of us are photographers.  All that matters is the end
> > result, regardless of the circumstances in which the photos are
> > obtained.
> >
> > Almost all of us are communicators.  If all that matters is the
> > end result (that we contact one another), then how we communicate
> > is irrelevant.
> >
> > On the other hand, radio amateurs do it with ham-band RF. It's
> > HOW we communicate with one another that validates our claim
> > to be radio amateurs.  If you need an external network (the
> > internet) to have contacts, you're no different to everyone
> > else who cannot communicate without being on the internet.
> >
> > Some radio amateurs and contesters deny this.
> >
> > 73,
> > Paul EI5DI
> >
> >
> >
> >
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