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From: Yuri via CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Yuri <n2tta@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 17:01:36 -0400
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Why DL1CW has to go if his TL can’t. Hi did not win the ticket, 5H3EE who was 
#1 at AF took him as teammate. 
Let’s #2 from AF be TL and he have to choose who will go with him on WRTC.

N2TTA 

 -Yuri-
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> On Jun 10, 2018, at 2:43 PM, Bob Shohet, KQ2M <kq2m@kq2m.com> wrote:
> 
> Medical situations often arise unexpectedly.  I was a US Team Leader for WRTC 
> 2006 held in Florianopolis, Brazil and I was forced to withdraw just one 
> month  before WRTC as a result of severe complications of surgery, which made 
> it impossible for me to operate much less travel.
> 
> As a group, as contesters continue to age, it is more and more likely that we 
> will see an increase in medically related reasons for withdrawals.
> 
> 73
> 
> Bob  KQ2M
> 
> 
> From: Stephen Bloom 
> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 11:39 AM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com 
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] [WRTC2018] looking for a new team leader
> 
> Hi all:
> 
> One thing is, I imagine it is quite rare for someone to drop out after
> qualifying.  People work for years and invest considerable time, money,
> and various other resources in order to qualify.  The most likely scenario
> is a very last minute thing.  Someone gets sick, or has a family emergency
> Or some situation in their home country becomes dangerous.  In this case,
> the replacement process in the WRTC rules, (basically a ad hoc, "ok, who
> can do this" process) is the only feasible option.  The partner is already
> there, it wouldn't be right to sideline him/her etc.  (Full disclosure, I'm
> already
> Planning on being in Wittenberg, and I did put in for the position.)  A
> change a month ahead of time isn't exactly the same, but I'm not sure it is
> that
> much different.  It would be tough to get someone who wasn't already
> planning on being there.
> 
> Regarding DL1CW, I know the request states that he *must* be the partner.
> Even if that wasn't included though, I can't imagine anyone not 
> giving him the spot, it's simply the right thing to do.
> 
> 73
> Steve KL7SB
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> Jorge Taboada
> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 3:27 AM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] [WRTC2018] looking for a new team leader
> 
> Hi To all.
> 
> 
> Well Randy is talking about 2 differents issues, one are rules, rules that
> under my  personal view are not good in many aspects, but now is not the
> question to talk about rules...... but I would like to says something, there
> is a clasification, so 1st african TL second TM, and the same for all others
> continents....... obviusly, the second guy was working hard trying to be in
> the wrtc and he cannot, this is not fair, for that's reason, 1º and 2º must
> be the team.
> 
> 
> But my question is, the african TL for X reason cannot go to wrtc, the team
> must be dissolve inmediately, new TL must has the option to choice his own
> TM... maybe he will accept the currently TM, who knows, but, anyway, new TL
> must have 2 options, choice a new one or accept the currentlyTM.
> 
> 
> Finally, under my personal opinion, team members must be classified, from
> Africa,.... in other case, are not a real African team representation.
> 
> 
> 73s
> Jorge Taboada Pareja,  EA9LZ  ED9Z EF9R  CN2R 5E5E P.O.BOX 530
> 51001 CEUTA, SPAIN
> www.giraldatop.com<http://www.giraldatop.com/>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> De: Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw@verizon.net>
> Enviado: viernes, 8 de junio de 2018 19:21
> Para: 'Jorge Taboada'
> Asunto: RE: [CQ-Contest] [WRTC2018] looking for a new team leader
> 
> In other words, they who wrote the rules left themselves a loophole to
> appoint their own buddies.  In short, you're shafted.
> 
> And then they wonder why I have no interest in this alleged competition.  I
> know a stacked deck when I see one...
> 
> Sorry OM, you deserved better.
> 
> 73, ron w3wn
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> Randy Thompson K5ZD
> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 5:02 PM
> To: 'Jorge Taboada'; 'Alex Malyava'; cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] [WRTC2018] looking for a new team leader
> 
> The Team Leader and Team Mate (TM) selection process is described at
> http://wrtc2018.de/index.php/en/competition/selection-criteria-2
> 
> Section 8 says "Each Team Leader may select a Teammate (TM) from anywhere in
> the world."  That is how 5H3EE could select DL1CW as a teammate.
> 
> The WRTC2018 selection policies can be found at
> http://wrtc2018.de/index.php/en/competition/selection-policies-2
> 
> Section 2 describes the process that will happen if a Team Leader (TL)
> withdraws.  When it is this close to the date of WRTC, the option is to make
> a request for Wild Card teams that would be able to attend the competition.
> The wild card team has to offer the TM position to DL1CW.
> 
> It is complicated, but this is not the first time this situation has
> occurred for a WRTC.
> 
> 73
> 
> Randy, K5ZD
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of 
>> Jorge Taboada
>> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 3:56 PM
>> To: Alex Malyava <alex.k2bb@gmail.com>; cq-contest@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] [WRTC2018] looking for a new team leader
>> 
>> Hi Again.
>> 
>> 
>> I am sorry but I do not understand, African team must be integrated by 
>> those who classified from Africa no from Germany. Other history, if 
>> the wrtc allowed to the TL have a Team mate from anywhere..... in this 
>> case this is not a real a World Radio Team Champion.
>> 
>> One more time, I do not understand, I am sorry.
>> 
>> 
>> 73s
>> Jorge Taboada Pareja,  EA9LZ  ED9Z EF9R  CN2R 5E5E P.O.BOX 530
>> 51001 CEUTA, SPAIN
>> www.giraldatop.com<http://www.giraldatop.com/>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> De: Alex Malyava <alex.k2bb@gmail.com>
>> Enviado: viernes, 8 de junio de 2018 12:08
>> Para: Jorge Taboada
>> Asunto: Re: [CQ-Contest] [WRTC2018] looking for a new team leader
>> 
>> ... because 5H3EE is German?
>> 
>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 5:59 AM, Jorge Taboada 
>> <ea9lz@hotmail.com<mailto:ea9lz@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>> Hi.
>> 
>> 
>> yes is corious, specially for me,  I am not a very intelligent guy, so 
>> I do not understand, why for the African Team, there is a DL station 
>> as Team Mate? waiting for some help to clarifying me, this rare
> situtation.
>> 
>> 
>> 73s
>> Jorge Taboada Pareja,  EA9LZ  ED9Z EF9R  CN2R 5E5E P.O.BOX 530
>> 51001 CEUTA, SPAIN
>> www.giraldatop.com<http://www.giraldatop.com><http://www.giraldatop.co
>> m/>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> De: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com<mailto:cq-contest-
>> bounces@contesting.com>> en nombre de Ron Notarius W3WN 
>> <wn3vaw@verizon.net<mailto:wn3vaw@verizon.net>>
>> Enviado: miércoles, 6 de junio de 2018 6:07
>> Para: cq-contest@contesting.com<mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
>> Asunto: Re: [CQ-Contest] [WRTC2018] looking for a new team leader
>> 
>> Curious.  Was there no one else from AF qualified or qualified enough 
>> for WRTC?
>> 
>> One would think that if the, or one of the, 'winners' from AF for WRTC 
>> could not attend, the next person in line would get the call.
>> 
>> 73, ron W3WN
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Randy Thompson K5ZD <k5zd@charter.net<mailto:k5zd@charter.net>>
>> To: cq-contest <cq-contest@contesting.com<mailto:cq-
>> contest@contesting.com>>
>> Sent: Wed, Jun 6, 2018 7:58 am
>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] [WRTC2018] looking for a new team leader
>> 
>> Forwarded on behalf of DL5AXX.
>> 
>> Hello contester,
>> 
>> as the designated team leader of 'AF' had to refuse his participation 
>> due to personal reasons we would like replace the team 'AF' by a wild 
>> card team.
>> 
>> So we invite you to send wild card applications for the now open TL 
>> position with DL1CW as team mate.
>> The deadline for the wild card application is Saturday, June 9. 2018 
>> at 2359z received at 
>> qualification@wrtc2018.de<mailto:qualification@wrtc2018.de>.
>> 
>> Please explain, why you are applying as TL.
>> 
>> After the deadline, we will choose the new TL as soon as possible.
>> 
>> --
>> 73 Ulf, DL5AXX
>> WRTC2018 qualifications
>> 
>> 
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