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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Assisted
From: RT Clay <rt_clay@bellsouth.net>
Reply-to: RT Clay <rt_clay@bellsouth.net>
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2018 13:49:36 +0000 (UTC)
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It depends:

A. #2 lives in W1. #1, #3 in CA. #2 beats both in a DX contest
B. #2 lives in AZ. #1, #3 in IL. #2 beats both in Sweepstakes


I hope everyone in this thread operates the NA Sprint coming up- that is a 
contest where assistance makes no difference!


Tor
N4OGW

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On Fri, 8/17/18, Jeff Clarke <ku8e@ku8e.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Assisted
 To: cq-contest@contesting.com
 Date: Friday, August 17, 2018, 9:31 PM
 
 Yuri,
 
 You really need to compare the
 
 1) A boy with Flex 6600,
 KT36XA (tribander) and dipoles and/or Inv. L's 
 at 80'
 
 OR
 
 2) A boy
 with Kenwood TS-830S, TA33jr at 40' and low dipoles.
 
 WITH
 
 3) Someone with multiple towers with mono-band
 yagis on 40-10 meters and 
 maybe a 4 square
 on 80 and a full size vertical or more on 160.
 
 
 Of course #1
 and #2 are close to being equal but neither of these are 
 close to #3. Maybe Google the calls that are
 near the top in the weekly 
 CWT's, NS
 and NAQP and you will find those who have the highest scores
 
 have a station that would be more like #3.
 But those that are stuck with 
 a station you
 described for #1 and #2 are grouped into the same category
 
 as #3. Is that really fair?
 
 Bottom line is I think what
 people are asking is that there should be a 
 tri-bander/wires category so those people in #1
 and #2 don't have to 
 compete directly
 again #3. I guess I don't see what the big deal is to
 
 add another category. Do you think it would
 be fair for a F1 race car to 
 compete again
 a NASCAR? It wouldn't even be close. You could use this
 
 same analogy when comparing antennas.
 
 Jeff
 
 On 8/17/2018 07:49 PM, John Geiger wrote:
 > Or a boy with his Icom 718 and a dipole,
 the most unfair of all.
 >
 > On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 5:23 PM, Yuri
 <ve3dz@rigexpert.net>
 wrote:
 >
 >> Okay,
 let's look at "A Boy And His Radio + Tribander /
 Wires" category.
 >>
 >> 1) A boy with Flex 6600, KT36XA
 (tribander) and dipoles and/or Inv. L's at
 >> 80'
 >>
 >> competes with:
 >>
 >> 2) A boy with
 Kenwood TS-830S, TA33jr at 40' and low dipoles.
 >>
 >> Looks
 fair?
 >>
 >> Same
 category.
 >>
 >>
 I bet the TS-830 guy would cry about unfairness...
 >>
 >> Have a great
 weekend, everyone.
 >>
 >>
 >> 73  Yuri 
 VE3DZ
 >>
 >>
 -----Original Message-----
 >> From:
 CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com]
 On Behalf Of
 >> Mark Bailey
 >> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 5:32
 PM
 >> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
 >> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Assisted
 >>
 >> Hi Steve:
 >>
 >> A boy and his
 radio category may be a good idea "tribander/wires
 anyone),
 >> but I still think we need
 to retain single operator categories which are
 >> played on the radio and without the
 internet and AI programs/robots.
 >>
 >> 73,
 >>
 >> Mark, KD4D
 >>
 >>
 >>
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 *Jeff Clarke*
 Information
 Technology Professional
 Ellerslie,
 Georgia
 
 KU8E.com <http://www.ku8e.com/>
 
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